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Flaming Lips Use of Plastic Bubbles at Concerts Leave Covid-19 Experts Unsure

There are Covid-19 bubbles — small clusters of friends or family who agree to socialize exclusively with each other during the pandemic — and then there are the kinds of bubbles the Flaming Lips used at recent concerts.

Band members and concertgoers rocked out and bounced while encased in large individual plastic bubbles amid bright swirling lights in trippy scenes at concerts on Friday and Saturday in Oklahoma City.

The band has taken the elaborate precautions at its live performances to protect against the transmission of the coronavirus, but some health experts were unsure about the effectiveness of those measures.

“I’d need to see how the air exchange was occurring between the outside and the inside of the bubbles to be able to say if it were safe over all or reduced risk of transmission,” said Dr. Eric Cioe-Peña, director of global health at Northwell Health in New Hyde Park, N.Y.

The concerts held on Friday and Saturday were originally scheduled for December, but the band postponed them because of rising Covid-19 cases in the Oklahoma City metro area.

“It’s a very restricted, weird event,” the band’s frontman, Wayne Coyne, told Rolling Stone last month. “But the weirdness is so we can enjoy a concert before putting our families and everybody at risk.”

“I think it’s a bit of a new normal,” he added. “You might go to a show, you might not, but I think we’re going to be able to work it out.”

In March, Mr. Coyne posted a sketch on Instagram showing what the bubble concert might look like.

Nathan Poppe, a videographer and photographer documenting the show for the band, said on Twitter that the floor was set up in a grid of 10 bubbles by 10 bubbles. “Each bubble may contain one person or two or maybe three,” he said.

Photos showed fans climbing inside the spheres on the concert floor, where the bubbles were then inflated with leaf blowers.

Each bubble came equipped with a high-frequency speaker, water bottle, fan, towel and a sign if someone had to use the restroom or if it was too hot inside. If it got too stuffy inside, the bubble could be refilled with cool air, Mr. Poppe said.

He said concertgoers could take their masks off inside the bubble but had to wear them after leaving the bubble.

“You roll your bubble to the exit and unzip it at the door,” he said.

It was not immediately clear what became of the used bubbles after the 90-minute performances, which were attended by about 200 people each.

Some health experts had concerns about users’ safety inside the bubbles.

“There is no evidence about the efficacy — or lack thereof — of these bubbles from an infectious disease transmission point of view,” said Dr. Sandro Galea, dean of the Boston University School of Public Health.

He said that virus transmission control depends on good air circulation and filtration.

“So, in theory, if air filtration is good, protective barriers can helpfully augment and reduce risk of transmission, but I would be hesitant to attend a concert in a bubble at the moment unless this has been assessed further,” he said.

Dr. Cioe-Peña said the plastic bubbles used at the concerts seemed to be unventilated. But if each of the bubbles “had a bidirectionally filtered air supply,” he said, “this would effectively prevent Covid transmission between bubbles.”

While a plastic bubble could help reduce exposure to “infectious agents” if it is filled with filtered air, it could also lead to raised carbon dioxide levels inside the bubble, said Richard E. Peltier, an associate professor of environmental health sciences at the University of Massachusetts Amherst.

“My recommendation would be to add a small CO2 sensor to the bubble,” he said. “Though they aren’t always the most precise, they should be sufficient to tell a concertgoer that it is time for a break and refresh that stale air. And then get back to enjoying the music safely.”



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Protesters gather in Tacoma as the officer who drove into a crowd is placed on administrative leave

The 58-year-old police officer was placed on administrative leave after running over at least one person and possibly striking others, according to a press release from TPD. He had been with the department for nearly 30 years.

The officer was not identified in the police statement.

Two people were taken to the hospital following the incident, according to the Pierce County Force Investigative Team, which is now leading the investigation. None of the injures are believed to be life-threatening, according to the investigative team’s statement, and at least one person has since been released.

Some of the protesters Sunday night blocked streets with signs and traffic cones near where the incident occurred. Others overturned trashcans and lit the contents on fire, while a few smashed windows of cars and buildings. Officials are still working to assess the damage, Haddow said in an email to CNN.

According to Haddow, employees of South Sound 911 Records had to be evacuated from their building after the windows were broken out Sunday night.

No arrests were made during the protest, but two people were arrested leading up to it, Haddow said.

Officer drove through crowd after he was surrounded, police say

Along with other police units, the officer was responding to reports of an incident at the intersection of South 9th and Pacific Avenue in Tacoma around 6:20 p.m. on Saturday, a press release from TPD said.

Once on scene, the officers found a number of vehicles and approximately 100 people blocking the intersection, which they began to clear “for the safety of those gathered and people trying to use the street,” the release said.

As the officers worked to clear the street, a crowd formed around the officer’s vehicle and began pounding on the windows, Tacoma police spokesperson Wendy Haddow told The News Tribune.

“He was afraid they would break his glass,” she said, prompting him to speed away from the scene, the News Tribune reported.

Lights and sirens were activated as the crowd continued to surround the vehicle, the release said. The officer inside the SUV tried backing up, but according to the release was not able to because of the crowd.

“Fearing for his safety,” the release said, “the officer drove forward striking one individual and may have impacted others,” while trying to get out of the “unsafe position.” Once the officer was “at a point of safety,” he called for medical aid the release said.

The News Tribune reported one person sustained a laceration in the collision and was transported to a local hospital.

Videos show officer drive through crowd

In at least one graphic video of the incident that was circulating on social media, the police vehicle with lights and sirens on can be seen slowly moving closer to the crowd gathered in front of the vehicle.

An engine is heard revving in the background and the vehicle backs up before accelerating forward into the crowd, knocking several people to the ground.

The vehicle then slows down slightly, as it appears to bounce while driving over something, before continuing through the intersection. The back tires of the vehicle can be seen rolling over someone lying in the street.

A second video shot at the scene shows a white car doing donuts in the middle of the intersection and driving off just as officers arrive, moments before the police vehicle is seen driving through the crowd.

In another video, the sound of an engine revving is followed by a series of thuds and an individual exclaiming twice, “Damn, they’re hitting a cop car.”

Moments later an engine is heard revving again and people scatter and begin to scream, “Oh my God! Oh my God!” repeatedly. A few seconds later a smaller crowd is seen forming around what appears to be someone laying on the ground.

Mayor wants those involved held accountable

Tacoma Mayor Victoria Woodards said in a statement she is “deeply concerned” by the incident.

“As a use of deadly force, this incident is being taken very seriously and the scene has appropriately been turned over to the Pierce County Force Investigation Team for independent investigation,” the mayor said.

“While we await more information, I want the community to know that I am deeply concerned and praying for everyone who was impacted by last night’s events,” Woodards said. “I continue to be proud of Tacoma’s long-standing reputation as a place of strong, non-violent advocacy and activism.”

The mayor has called on the city manager and police chief to hold everyone involved accountable in the incident.

Tacoma City Manager Elizabeth Pauli told CNN affiliate KING Sunday that videos she watched of the incident were “horrific.”

“I was horrified, those videos are very difficult to watch,” Pauli said. “I feel concern for the individual that was run over. I feel concern for those that witnessed that event. I feel concern for our officers that are involved.”

Interim Police Chief Mike Ake said in a press release “I am concerned that our department is experiencing another use of deadly force incident.”

“I send my thoughts to anyone who was injured in tonight’s event and am committed to our Department’s full cooperation in the independent investigation and to assess the actions of the department’s response during the incident,” Ake said.

The Community Police Advisory Board will hold a special meeting Monday night at 6 p.m. PST to discuss the incident, a tweet from TPD said.

CNN’s Carma Hassan, Claudia Dominguez and Artemis Moshtaghian contributed to this report.



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Major delays cause some to leave Delaware vaccination sites without shots

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Hundreds in phase 1B line up to receive COVID vaccine at Delaware City DMV Friday

Delaware News Journal

Bonnie and Bob Siley followed the instructions. They registered online to be vaccinated, filled out all the forms and waited for their time slot.

Bob, 83, has cancer and is a higher priority than his wife, so he was among the 11,500 older adults selected to be vaccinated through state-run events this weekend in Delaware City and Georgetown.

The Sileys received a response from the state that Bob was approved for an appointment, and they scheduled one for the 11 to 11:30 a.m. slot Saturday at the Delaware City Division of Motor Vehicles.

They left their suburban Wilmington home at 10:15 a.m. Saturday and returned just before 2 p.m. 

They never got close to entering the DMV’s grounds near where Route 1 meets Route 72 and Wrangle Hill Road.

“It was a nightmare,” said Bonnie, 80.

She said they moved about 150 feet while waiting for more than 1½ hours. With no idea how long it would take to get close to the DMV, they decided to leave.

“Thank God we got out of line,” Bonnie said. “I don’t know what’s going to happen.”

Bonnie said she spoke with another friend who had a scheduled time slot between 11:30 a.m. and noon who also left before being vaccinated.

So, too, did Evan Winslow’s grandfather.

Winslow said his father and grandfather also had an appointment in the 11:30 to noon time slot. He said they had heard from another person who was scheduled for 9 a.m. and didn’t reach the front of the line until 1:30 p.m.

Unsure how much longer it would take until they reached the front, they decided to leave, though they later returned.

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In a Facebook post after 2 p.m., the Department of Health and Social Services said: “If you have an appointment, you will receive a vaccine today, so please stay in line if you can. We apologize for the delay caused by technical issues.”

Division of Public Health spokeswoman Jen Brestel said in an email: “For those with appointments Saturday and Sunday, it is important that you fill out the medical history information in the VAMS account you created so it does not have to be added at the vaccination event. Please use the username and password you created to make the appointment to go back to VAMS and add the Medical History information before you reach the vaccination event.”

The state planned on vaccinating 11,500 older adults and 2,000 phase 1A health care workers this weekend in Delaware City and Georgetown. The vaccinations were by appointment only. Traffic near the Georgetown DMV was snarled in the area of Route 113 and North Bedford Street/Shortly Road, where long lines of people waited.

The Georgetown facility could hold about 400 cars on the DMV property, a Delaware Department of Transportation worker said. People at that facility were reporting wait times of three hours on Facebook.

Tens of thousands of Delawareans in phase 1B registered this week to be vaccinated through the state’s online system. From that group, 11,500 were selected based on priority for this weekend’s event. On Friday, 500 people were vaccinated at the Delaware City DMV, and thousands more were expected to be vaccinated Saturday and Sunday at both locations.

For some, the long wait was expected.

Elizabeth Monaghan, a former emergency medicine nurse, said she and her husband were expecting a long day getting vaccinated at the Georgetown site.

“We have friends like us in many other states who aren’t even hopeful for a vaccine soon,” she wrote in an email.

Monaghan said while “there is always room for improvement,” the people – volunteers, public health employees, first responders – should be commended. 

“Finally in the holding area for a short 15 minutes to wait out any immediate unexpected reaction… we looked at each other thankful that we were fortunate to have come to this point after 10 long months,” she said.

“What has to be remembered is that we are all in this mess together. Patience and understanding for the tasks at hand is required. Along with kindness – deep breaths help too –will get us all through this.”

Monaghan said the round-trip time was around three hours.

Others at Delaware City experienced longer waits.

Like the Sileys, another Hockessin couple left their house around 10 a.m. for their 11 a.m. appointment. The couple, who did not want to be named, spoke to Delaware Online/The News Journal by cell phone around 3 p.m. and said the car’s trip odometer had yet to hit 15 miles. They had been on Route 1 south sitting in traffic for around five hours.

“I’ve never, ever, seen traffic like this in Delaware,” said the man, 77. “This is absolutely abysmal.”

But unlike the Sileys, the couple said they were going to wait it out.

“We need these vaccines,” the man said, because his wife has underlying health issues.

They, too, had preregistered online and received appointment confirmations. 

“We did everything right,” said the woman, 73.

The couple had phoned police in an effort to get traffic controlled. They were concerned about some older adults not being able to wait in the long lines without access to a bathroom or food.

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They later called The News Journal back after they were vaccinated at 5:15 p.m., seven hours after they left their Hockessin home. Once they got inside the DMV complex, they said it was much more organized.

“We heard these horror stores from Florida, but we never thought we were going to have this kind of thing in Delaware,” the man said.

What’s worse, Bonnie Siley said, is that the people being vaccinated this weekend have to get a second shot in a matter of weeks.

“Are you going to be back in this line like this?”

After leaving without her husband getting a shot, she said they would try to get vaccinated through a pharmacy instead.

“I’m just so frustrated and disappointed,” she said.

Shannon Marvel McNaught contributed to this story.

Contact Jeff Neiburg at jneiburg@delawareonline.com. Follow him on Twitter @Jeff_Neiburg.

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