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Knicks 114, Bulls 91: Scenes from a sequel even better than the original

The Chicago Bulls are not good at the moment. For us children of the 1990s, however, that doesn’t matter. Beating the Bulls will always be fun. And the Knicks absolutely stomped the Bulls in the second half en route to a 114-91 victory.

After needing overtime to defeat Chicago on Wednesday, the Knicks smacked the Bulls around for the final three quarters.

The backcourt duo of Jalen Brunson (22 points, 6-9 from three) and Quentin Grimes (22 points, 5-9 from three) lit up Chicago from beyond the arc.

The defense was on point in the fourth. Watch Jericho Sims shut down guard Alex Caruso, then Miles McBride picking off the pass and taking it in for the layup.

RJ Barrett (game-high 27 points) struggled in the first half with his shooting, but absolutely lit it up after halftime.

The Knicks led by 30 in the fourth, and since this is their last game of the season in Chicago, Thibs indulged the Windy City faithful by playing Derrick Rose.

Great game! I’m a bit under the weather at the moment, so I’ll get the recap tomorrow. Have a good evening.

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Jalen Brunson’s heroics lift Knicks to fifth straight win

CHICAGO — Foot contusion? What foot contusion.

Jalen Brunson certainly didn’t look like someone limited by an injury Wednesday night. A game-time decision, Brunson wasn’t going to miss out on playing in front of family and friends so close to where he spent a large portion of his childhood.

After resorting to isolation ball with Julius Randle to close out regulation, the Knicks put the ball in Brunson’s hands in the extra session, and he didn’t disappoint. He scored seven of his 30 points in the final five minutes as the Knicks knocked off the Bulls, 128-120, at the United Center after blowing a five-point lead in the final 2:07 of regulation. The victory, the Knicks’ sixth road victory in eight tries, gave them a season-high five-game win streak and moved them to two games over .500 at 15-13 for the first time since late October.

Quentin Grimes hit arguably the game’s biggest shot, a 3-pointer that caromed off the front of the rim and fell in to give the Knicks a six-point edge with 1:04 to go. Brunson then hit another 3-pointer after leaving Alex Caruso on the floor with a crossover. He showed rare emotion, celebrating the big shot by shouting towards his high school coach, Pat Ambrose, and two close friends who were sitting under the basket.

“Pretty special,” was how Brunson described the evening.

Jalen Brunson didn’t appear to be bothered by a foot injury as he helped the Knicks roll on.
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As recently as Monday, Brunson was in a walking boot after Davion Mitchell landed awkwardly on his right foot in the Knicks’ win over the Kings on Sunday. He didn’t finish that game and wasn’t able to practice on Tuesday. But against the Bulls, he logged 39 minutes and was at his best in overtime.

In hindsight, it seemed silly that there was even a question about his status.

“I don’t want to give anyone the notion that I’m healthy, but I just didn’t want to take today off,” said Brunson, who also had seven assists. “Me as a leader, if I’m able to walk and I’m able to play, I’ve got to bring it.”

As a group, the Knicks brought it in overtime, especially on the defensive end. They held the Bulls to just three points on 1 of 7 shooting after allowing them to shoot 58 percent over the first four quarters. It was similar to their previous four wins when the Knicks held three opponents under 100 points.

Julius Randle stayed red-hot as the Knicks’ win streak continued.
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Chicago Bulls’ Goran Dragic (7) passes the ball as New York Knicks’ Isaiah Hartenstein (55) Immanuel Quickley (5) and Jericho Sims defend.
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“It was nice to see,” coach Tom Thibodeau said. “I’d prefer to see it earlier.”

Randle scored a team-high 31 points — his third 30-point effort in four games — to go along with 13 rebounds and seven assists, and RJ Barrett had 22 points before fouling out late in regulation. Grimes chipped in 14 points, five rebounds and a team-best plus-14 rating. DeMar DeRozan scored 32 for the Bulls (11-16), who had their three-game home winning streak snapped.

The Knicks led by as many as 14 points in the first half and were up five in the final two minutes. But they couldn’t finish off the Bulls in regulation as Randle air-balled a baseline fadeaway, leaving Chicago with 0.7 seconds left to win it. Randle, though, read the lob play well, and got in between Patrick Williams and the rim, forcing overtime.

“Sometimes you have to win games in different ways, and the bottom line is just find a way to win,” Thibodeau said.

The Knicks left no doubt from then on. Brunson made sure of that, bad right foot and all, producing his fourth 30-point game of the season.

“It says a lot about him. It’s everything,” Thibodeau said. “Coming in, [getting] multiple treatments every day. That becomes his game, it becomes his practice. He’s been through so many different things. He has a strategy for everything. He just gets out there and gets it done.”

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Knicks’ Julius Randle thriving again because of these two factors

This isn’t the Julius Randle of two years ago. It’s more like Julius Randle 2.0.

He may be producing similar numbers to that fantastic season when the bruising yet athletic forward led the Knicks to a surprising fourth-place finish in the Eastern Conference, but he is doing so in a different manner.

“The year two years ago obviously he had a great year and a big part of that, I think, was his shooting,” coach Tom Thibodeau said on Tuesday after practice. “It opened up a lot of things for him. But then I think the league sort of caught up and now I think he’s caught up to what they were doing.”

A major part of that change was a different offensive philosophy under Thibodeau predicated on pace and ball movement, and the arrival of new point guard Jalen Brunson. It meant less isolation for Randle and a new focus on playing uptempo.

Randle is rarely bringing the ball up and pounding it into the floor. Instead, he’s getting transition opportunities, shots by moving without the ball and Brunson’s fast start has taken some of the defense’s focus away from Randle. He’s seeing fewer double-teams and getting more open shots.

Julius Randle has thrived early in the Knicks’ season because he’s playing faster, plus has the presence of Jalen Brunson (inset).
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“His approach has been totally different,” Derrick Rose said. “The way he’s reading the floor is totally different. His passing has been unbelievable, like getting to spots and not forcing shots and understanding that we’re trying to get up a certain amount of 3’s. He’s finding the shooters.”

He’s also made notable adjustments, in particular arriving for training camp leaner and more prepared to get up and down the floor faster. At the start of camp, Randle spoke of his excitement for this new offensive philosophy and teaming up with Brunson, and he has backed up that talk, producing 17 assists and just four turnovers in the preseason. In three regular-season games, he is averaging 21.3 points, 9.7 rebounds, 3.3 assists and only 1.7 turnovers.

“I’ll say this: Julius is a tremendous athlete and I know from having coached against him what you don’t want to see is Julius flying up the floor, attacking the rim, playing with speed like he’s playing,” Thibodeau said. “You’d rather defend him stationary with the ball. I think because of that, [since] he knows the different things he’s been through, he wants to play fast, and so I think that’s huge. He can help sell it to the rest of the team when he’s moving the way he’s moving. It gets the whole team moving that way.”

Late in Monday’s victory over the Magic the biggest change for the Knicks was on display. A 14-point lead had been cut to six with 4:28 left in the fourth quarter. In past years, it was obvious where the ball was going — to Randle in isolation. Not in this instance. The Knicks ran a high screen-and-roll with Brunson, and it resulted in a made Brunson jumper in which he also drew a foul that iced the game. The Knicks have become less predictable.

Julius Randle celebrates after a dunk during the Knicks’ win over the Magic.
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“For [Jalen] to take that pressure off me is huge,” Randle said. He added, in general about his play: “I’m just trying to lose myself in the team. Lean on guys like [Brunson], RJ [Barrett], just play for my team. The only thing that matters is winning.”

Brunson, an ego-less lead guard known for making the right play, has had a major impact on Randle. The two started to develop chemistry even before training camp, both of them spending plenty of time in August and early September at the MSG Training Center. It shows. They have played well together, registering a combined plus-30 rating this season.

Brunson recently had Randle and other teammates over to watch a big Eagles-Cowboys game. Brunson roots for the Eagles and Randle is a Cowboys fan. A recent press conference featuring the two players ended with them being asked who will win the NFC East. They both laughed and talked trash about the other’s team.

The only thing the two stars don’t see eye-to-eye on appears to be their favorite football teams.

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Former NBA guard, Knicks star Nate Robinson battling kidney failure

Three-time NBA slam dunk champion and former guard Nate Robinson has announced he is battling kidney failure.

“I am currently undergoing treatment for Renal Kidney Failure and have been privately dealing with it for the last four years,” Robinson said through a statement Saturday evening.

Robinson, who spent the first five years of his career with the Knicks, said the reason for coming public with his battle was to shine a light on the disease.

“I’m sharing this now because I want to be the voice for all those who are having trouble speaking about this illness and come together for a greater cause – our health,” he added.

Known for his short stature on the court, the 5-9 University of Washington graduate, said he was never one to speak out. But he hopes to lead a united fight over kidney failure.

“I was never a vocal leader on the court,” Robinson admitted. “I preferred to lead by example, but now it’s time for me to speak up and help all those affected by or dealing with Kidney Disease.”

Robinson hopes his announcement on Saturday will bring awareness to the disease.
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Nate Robinson #2 of the New York Knicks attempts a dunk during the Sprite Slam Dunk Contest on All-Star Saturday Night.
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Robinson, 38, also expressed his gratitude for the medical care that he has been receiving over the last four years. “I am grateful for the care I’ve received and continue to receive during this process and hope through this announcement that I can help others like me.

Robinson holds the league record with three NBA Slam Dunk Contest titles, the last coming in 2010.

He suited up for eight teams over the course of his 11 seasons and last appeared in the NBA during the 2015-16 season, where he played two games for the New Orleans Pelicans.

After his basketball career, Robinson tested out boxing, making his professional debut against Jake Paul in an undercard bout for Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones Jr. Paul won the fight in a second-round knock-out.



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Donovan Mitchell trade: Knicks whiff on another star, but RJ Barrett and future flexibility worth more

Donovan Mitchell was traded, seemingly out of the blue, to the Cleveland Cavaliers on Thursday, and the low-hanging fallout story for the New York Knicks is going to be striking out on yet another superstar pursuit. It’s not an unreasonable takeaway. The Knicks eventually have to actually hook one of these big fish they’re always trolling after. 

But the wrong deal can impact a franchise just as significantly as the right one. Of all the stars the Knicks have, to varying degrees, pursued of late, are we sure Mitchell would’ve been the right one to land? 

First, are we sure Donovan Mitchell is a superstar? He’s very good. On offense. He’s proven himself as a big-time playoff performer, and that has to matter a great deal. But a Mitchell-Jalen Brunson backcourt sounds awfully small and defensively vulnerable. If the Knicks had given up RJ Barrett in a deal to acquire Mitchell, plus either Quentin Grimes or a third protected future first-round pick, which was reportedly what Utah wanted, it would’ve largely hindered their ability to chase another All-Star down the line.

So if a Knicks roster that includes Mitchell is closer to a finished product, how good is a Mitchell-Brunson pairing, particularly without the size and defensive support of a Barrett? In that scenraio, you better hope Julius Randle morphs back into an All-Star, and even then you’re probably looking at a lower-end playoff team, at best, in a completely stacked Eastern Conference. 

The deal Utah got from Cleveland — Collin Sextion, Lauri Markannen, 2022 No. 14 overall pick Ochai Agbaji, three unprotected first-round picks and the right to two future pick swaps — is a better deal that New York was willing to offer, which, accrording to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski, was as follows:

When guard Immanuel Quickley was proposed as a replacement for Grimes in the trade, Utah wanted three unprotected first-round draft picks as part of the package — but New York would only do a third first-round pick that included top-five protections, sources said. Those packages would’ve included two second-round picks, two pick swaps and two expiring contracts from a third team, sources said. New York would’ve moved out Evan Fournier and first-round pick to a third team to spare Utah taking on Fournier’s remaining $37 million, sources said.

Danny Ainge is a certified thief in these negotiations, and New York was, to me, smart not to give in. Again, Mitchell is really good. But how good? While the price of his acquisition wouldn’t have emptied New York’s basket (it has eight trade-eligible future picks), it would’ve left only three future picks — of debatable value — with which to enter future trade talks, and Oklahoma City and Houston are likely a few years away from being ready to dust everyone else’s offers. 

Tp be clear, I’m not saying the Knicks would’ve been unequivocally misguided to go all-in on Mitchell. New York reportedly believed that a Brunson-Mitchell duo would’ve attracted another star. That’s debatable, as is whether the Knicks would’ve had the resources to add that third star even if one had emerged as a target. 

Ultimately, had the Knicks been able to keep Barrett, I would’ve been in support of adding more unprotected picks to get Mitchell. I think Barrett can develop into an All-Star, and there’s your Big 3 if Brunson turns out to be an All-Star-level player. If he doesn’t, you can package him with the leftover picks for a high-level replacement to pair with Mitchell and Barrett. Or you can trade Barrett. This would’ve been enough wiggle room to still feel comfortable. 

But giving up Barrett and a bunch of unprotected picks was a bridge too far. Mitchell isn’t that great. When the disappointment of whiffing on another star subsides, Knicks fans will, or should, see that they’re in a pretty good position moving forward. Brunson is potentially an overpay, we’ll see, but he’s a very good player and he takes the ball out of Randle’s monopolizing hands. Barrett now has time to continue developing, and most importantly, those eight future trade-eligible drafts picks are still in the holster. 

Throw in a potential massive cap spike in 2025, when the new TV deal is set to kick in, and New York could also be a few years away from having something close to max space. At that point, Brunson will have a player option. If he’s worth it, you extend him. If not, he becomes a trade piece. That’s called flexibility, which, to me, is better than depleting your asset pool and overextending yourself for Mitchell just to be a No. 6 seed. 

I’ll reiterate this one last time: Reasonable minds can disagree on this stance I’ve taken. The Knicks have to get a true star at some point, and Mitchell is a star. He’s not a superstar, in my opinion, but he’s a legit star. If you think the Knicks should’ve given up more unprotected picks and/or Barrett and figured the rest out later, especially with Houston and OKC lurking as trade-trumping monsters a few years from now, that’s understandable. It’s not where I fall, but this isn’t a clear-cut situation. This was a tough call either way. Only time will tell if the Knicks chose right. 

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Donovan Mitchell trade: Knicks whiff on another star, but RJ Barrett and future flexibility was worth more

Donovan Mitchell was traded, seemingly out of the blue, to the Cleveland Cavaliers on Thursday, and the low-hanging fallout story for the New York Knicks is going to be striking out on yet another superstar pursuit. It’s not an unreasonable takeaway. The Knicks eventually have to actually hook one of these big fish they’re always trolling after. 

But the wrong deal can impact a franchise just as significantly as the right one. Of all the stars the Knicks have, to varying degrees, pursued of late, are we sure Mitchell would’ve been the right one to land? 

First, are we sure Donovan Mitchell is a superstar? He’s very good. On offense. He’s proven himself as a big-time playoff performer, and that has to matter a great deal. But a Mitchell-Jalen Brunson backcourt sounds awfully small and defensively vulnerable. If the Knicks had given up RJ Barrett in a deal to acquire Mitchell, plus either Quentin Grimes or a third protected future first-round pick, which was reportedly what Utah wanted, it would’ve largely hindered their ability to chase another All-Star down the line.

So if a Knicks roster that includes Mitchell is closer to a finished product, how good is a Mitchell-Brunson pairing, particularly without the size and defensive support of a Barrett? In that scenraio, you better hope Julius Randle morphs back into an All-Star, and even then you’re probably looking at a lower-end playoff team, at best, in a completely stacked Eastern Conference. 

The deal Utah got from Cleveland — Collin Sextion, Lauri Markannen, 2022 No. 14 overall pick Ochai Agbaji, three unprotected first-round picks and the right to two future pick swaps — is a better deal that New York was willing to offer, which, accrording to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski, was as follows:

When guard Immanuel Quickley was proposed as a replacement for Grimes in the trade, Utah wanted three unprotected first-round draft picks as part of the package — but New York would only do a third first-round pick that included top-five protections, sources said. Those packages would’ve included two second-round picks, two pick swaps and two expiring contracts from a third team, sources said. New York would’ve moved out Evan Fournier and first-round pick to a third team to spare Utah taking on Fournier’s remaining $37 million, sources said.

Danny Ainge is a certified thief in these negotiations, and New York was, to me, smart not to give in. Again, Mitchell is really good. But how good? While the price of his acquisition wouldn’t have emptied New York’s basket (it has eight trade-eligible future picks), it would’ve left only three future picks — of debatable value — with which to enter future trade talks, and Oklahoma City and Houston are likely a few years away from being ready to dust everyone else’s offers. 

Tp be clear, I’m not saying the Knicks would’ve been unequivocally misguided to go all-in on Mitchell. New York reportedly believed that a Brunson-Mitchell duo would’ve attracted another star. That’s debatable, as is whether the Knicks would’ve had the resources to add that third star even if one had emerged as a target. 

Ultimately, had the Knicks been able to keep Barrett, I would’ve been in support of adding more unprotected picks to get Mitchell. I think Barrett can develop into an All-Star, and there’s your Big 3 if Brunson turns out to be an All-Star-level player. If he doesn’t, you can package him with the leftover picks for a high-level replacement to pair with Mitchell and Barrett. Or you can trade Barrett. This would’ve been enough wiggle room to still feel comfortable. 

But giving up Barrett and a bunch of unprotected picks was a bridge too far. Mitchell isn’t that great. When the disappointment of whiffing on another star subsides, Knicks fans will, or should, see that they’re in a pretty good position moving forward. Brunson is potentially an overpay, we’ll see, but he’s a very good player and he takes the ball out of Randle’s monopolizing hands. Barrett now has time to continue developing, and most importantly, those eight future trade-eligible drafts picks are still in the holster. 

Throw in a potential massive cap spike in 2025, when the new TV deal is set to kick in, and New York could also be a few years away from having something close to max space. At that point, Brunson will have a player option. If he’s worth it, you extend him. If not, he becomes a trade piece. That’s called flexibility, which, to me, is better than depleting your asset pool and overextending yourself for Mitchell just to be a No. 6 seed. 

I’ll reiterate this one last time: Reasonable minds can disagree on this stance I’ve taken. The Knicks have to get a true star at some point, and Mitchell is a star. He’s not a superstar, in my opinion, but he’s a legit star. If you think the Knicks should’ve given up more unprotected picks and/or Barrett and figured the rest out later, especially with Houston and OKC lurking as trade-trumping monsters a few years from now, that’s understandable. It’s not where I fall, but this isn’t a clear-cut situation. This was a tough call either way. Only time will tell if the Knicks chose right. 

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RJ Barrett finalizing extension with New York Knicks, complicating pursuit of Utah Jazz’s Donovan Mitchell

New York Knicks guard RJ Barrett is finalizing a four-year rookie extension that could be worth up to $120 million, his agent Bill Duffy of BDA Sports and WME Sports told ESPN on Monday, complicating the franchise’s offseason trade pursuit of Utah Jazz All-Star Donovan Mitchell.

Barrett’s deal — which makes him the youngest $100 million player in Knicks history at 22 years old — ends several weeks of trade discussions for Mitchell between New York and Utah, and forces the two organizations, if they choose, to start over talks with significantly different considerations because of the “poison pill” provision now in Barrett’s deal.

New York president of basketball operations Leon Rose set a Monday night deadline with Utah to reach an agreement on a trade for Mitchell or the Knicks would commit to the Barrett extension, sources said.

While the Jazz-Knicks trade talks intensified and the gap on deal points that included Barrett in the package tightened over the weekend and into Monday, there remained a gulf on reaching a trade for Mitchell, sources said. Once the Knicks and Jazz exhausted discussions Monday night, Rose and Duffy finalized the extension eligible to players out of the 2019 NBA draft class.

Barrett’s deal ends a remarkable 23-year drought for the Knicks: He’s the franchise’s first draft pick to agree to a multiyear contract extension after his rookie deal since Charlie Ward in 1999, according to ESPN Stats & Information research.

Barrett averaged 20 points, 5.8 rebounds and three assists for the Knicks a season ago. He was the No. 3 overall pick in the 2019 draft out of Duke, behind New Orleans’ Zion Williamson and Memphis’ Ja Morant.

Barrett is one of only five players in NBA history to amass 3,000 points, 1,000 rebounds and 200 3-pointers before his 22nd birthday, joining Kobe Bryant, Luka Doncic, Kevin Durant and LeBron James.

The Knicks did include Barrett in trade proposals for Mitchell, sources said, which is why the process to complete the extension lasted several additional weeks. Barrett was a staple of several different trade variations discussed, but hurdles remained Monday about the total of unprotected first-round picks in the deal and the inclusion of Knicks guard Quentin Grimes, sources said.

Nevertheless, the Jazz greatly valued Barrett as part of any Mitchell deal with New York, and a deal without him would require the Knicks to relinquish far more draft assets than they’ve shown a willingness to do, sources said.

Once the Knicks committed to Barrett’s extension, management became resigned to the fact that there’s a much more difficult path to an offseason deal to acquire Mitchell. Nevertheless, neither Utah or New York is ruling out restarting the talks before the start of training camps in late September, sources said.

The sides have been discussing a trade on and off since early July. Out of the 179 players in NBA history who’ve had the poison pill provision, only one — Devin Harris in 2008 — was moved.

For trade purposes, the poison pill is computed with a formula that would put the Knicks’ outgoing salary for a Barrett trade at $10.9 million but require the incoming salary for a team acquiring him to be $26.2 million. The restriction will be lifted on July 1.

For Barrett to be included in a trade to the Jazz, the Knicks would need to find a third team with salary-cap space to redirect Evan Fournier’s $37 million contract.

The Jazz aren’t seriously engaged elsewhere on a Mitchell deal now, sources said, which makes real the possibility that he could still be on the roster for the start of training camp.

The Jazz are committed to starting a rebuild after trading All-Star center Rudy Gobert to the Minnesota Timberwolves for five first-round picks in July. Mitchell, 25, is a three-time All-Star and greater New York native who would instantly become the franchise’s best player.

ESPN Front-Office Insider Bobby Marks contributed to this report.

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Knicks, Jazz re-engage in Donovan Mitchell trade talks, but hurdles remain: Sources

After several weeks of no conversations, the New York Knicks and Utah Jazz recently re-engaged in trade talks centered on Donovan Mitchell, league sources tell The Athletic.

The Knicks and Jazz had a fresh trade conversation within the past week about potential packages for Mitchell, according to sources. There is no traction between the two teams on a deal, and no Mitchell trade is imminent for the Jazz, sources said. The Charlotte Hornets and Washington Wizards are also among the teams pursuing Mitchell, those sources said.

Throughout trade talks, the Knicks have made their interest in Mitchell abundantly clear, one source with knowledge of the situation said. The Knicks and Jazz seriously discussed a Mitchell trade during the NBA’s Las Vegas Summer League in mid-July, but talks stalled out and led to nearly a month of inactivity between the sides. Now, with training camp just over one month away, the sides have re-ignited talks. Hurdles toward a deal remain.

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Utah has set a high price threshold for Mitchell, who so far is believed to be comfortable with either outcome of staying with the Jazz or being traded elsewhere, sources said. Mitchell, 25, has made three consecutive All-Star appearances and has averaged 23.9 points, 4.5 assists and 4.2 rebounds over his five NBA seasons.

The Jazz have already made significant changes to their roster this offseason. They traded Rudy Gobert to the Minnesota Timberwolves and Royce O’Neale to the Brooklyn Nets in July.

The Jazz have maintained they are comfortable keeping Mitchell into the season and potentially beyond, due to him having three years remaining on his contract.

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Atlantic Notes: Tatum, Durant, Knicks, Raptors

Various members of the NBA world have been weighing in since word spread earlier this week that the Celtics and Nets have been in conversation about a trade centered around current Brooklyn All-Star forward Kevin Durant and current Boston star wing Jaylen Brown.

Brown’s All-Star running mate in Boston, Jayson Tatum, has finally supplied his two cents on the matter, per Nick Friedell of ESPN.

“I played with [Durant] during the Olympics,” Tatum commented on Tuesday, attending the premiere of the new Showtime documentary Point Gods. Durant, as an executive producer, was also in attendance, but did not discuss his future with assembled media. “Obviously, he’s a great player, but that’s not my decision,” Tatum continued. “We got two new pieces [in Malcolm Brogdon and Danilo Gallinari]… I love our team. I just go out there and play with my teammates. I don’t put that [general manager] hat on to make decisions.”

There’s more out of the Atlantic Division:

  • The aforementioned notion of a swap of Nets star Kevin Durant for Celtics star Jaylen Brown and additional assets was explored by Jared Weiss, Jay King, and Alex Schiffer of The Athletic in a new roundtable.
  • The other big lingering line item that persists at this point in the 2022 NBA offseason is the fate of Jazz All-Star guard Donovan Mitchell. The 6’1″ swingman has long been floated as a possible fit for the Knicks, a star-hungry big market club with the contracts, future draft equity, and intriguing young talent to potentially swing a deal that the Utah front office may value. The Athletic’s Fred Katz and Mike Vorkunov experiment with a fascinating exercise by opting to stage a mock draft of New York’s most-valuable trade chips.
  • The Knicks are not the only game in town when it comes to possibly adding the services of Donovan Mitchell for the 2022/23 NBA season. Raptors team president Masai Ujiri and his Jazz front office counterpart Danny Ainge may appear at first blush to be particularly abrasive trade partners, doomed to haggle over picks and protections, opines Eric Koreen of The Athletic. However, Koreen notes that, because of the depth of Toronto’s young talent, the teams could wind up being particularly good fits for each other in a Mitchell transaction, provided Ujiri and Ainge can agree on the granular details of such an exchange.

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Drafting what Knicks should keep in a Donovan Mitchell trade

The New York Knicks have plotted what they want to keep most in a potential Donovan Mitchell trade. Our experts are about to do the same.

Mike Vorkunov, who covered the Knicks for The Athletic from 2018-21, and current Knicks beat reporter Fred Katz have connected for a special activity: They will draft the pieces the Knicks could use to entice the Utah Jazz into a deal for the three-time All-Star.

The Knicks will have to pay a heavy price for Mitchell, but how expensive remains to be seen. How much is enough for the 25-year-old dynamo scorer?

Fred and Mike delved into the six players and 11 draft assets the Knicks could potentially send to the Jazz and drafted them, as if they were in a niche, trade-piece fantasy league. The goal? Select the players and/or first-round draft picks the Knicks should prioritize retaining in a hypothetical deal for Mitchell. With ferocious negotiators like Brock Aller and Danny Ainge on each side, no detail is too small, no pick too invaluable.

The draft goes 17 rounds.

It does not include Evan Fournier, Julius Randle or Derrick Rose, all of whom have large salaries that could help facilitate a trade for Mitchell. Instead, only first-round picks, first-round swaps and young players are in the pool.

There are 17 potential pieces the Knicks could use to acquire Mitchell: six players (RJ Barrett, Quentin Grimes, Miles McBride, Immanuel Quickley, Cam Reddish and Obi Toppin); first-round picks in 2023, ‘25, ‘27 and ‘29; first-round swaps in ‘24, ‘26 and ‘28; and four first-rounders from other teams (the Dallas Mavericks’ in ’23, the Detroit Pistons’ in ‘23, the Washington Wizards’ in ‘23 and the Milwaukee Bucks’ in ‘25).

To make things easier, the Knicks’ 2024, ‘26 and ‘28 first-rounders were not in the draft pool, since the most-likely construction of a hypothetical Mitchell deal would include first-rounders in 2023, ‘25, ‘27 and/or ‘29 with the possibility of swaps in the even-numbered years. By league rule, teams can trade first-round picks as far out as only seven years. For the sake of simplicity, let’s also assume that all the Knicks’ first-round picks and swaps are unprotected.

Mike and Fred added justifications for their selections below their picks.

Remember, this draft is from the perspective of what the Knicks should want to keep in a trade for Mitchell, not what the Jazz should want to receive for him. That’s especially important about the player who Team Mike could select first.

Speaking of, Team Mike is on the clock …

No 1: Team Mike selects RJ Barrett

If the Knicks trade for Mitchell they’ll look to be as good as possible during the 2022-23 season, and Barrett would be a significant player for them. They need to keep him to maximize their short-term potential. They also need to keep him to maximize their long-term potential. It will become ever more difficult to acquire high-end talent with a trade for Mitchell, let alone a star. They’ll have significantly fewer draft assets and likely be a better team, so they’ll be more likely to pick lower in the draft. Barrett is their big, in-house bet to nurture a star or at least a very good starter and not have to pay anything to get him. That’s more valuable than a far-off pick for the Knicks and that makes him so much more valuable to the franchise he’s a part of than he is for another team.

No. 2: Team Fred selects the Knicks’ 2029 first-round pick

I had Barrett No. 1 on my big board, as well, which should help put into context why it’s realistic for the 22-year-old to stay put amidst a possible Mitchell trade. The Knicks could want to keep him the most and the Jazz could want other stuff more. Barrett can become a free agent next summer and is extension-eligible now. Utah is early as can be in its rebuilding cycle. Yet, it’d have to pay him market value right away. Barrett would be approaching unrestricted free agency when the Jazz get good again. As for my selection of the 2029 first-rounder, the logic is simple: the farther out the picks go, the more uncertain we are of their positioning. Holding onto the 2029 pick keeps the future more flexible. Also, if the Knicks want to trade for another star a couple of years down the line, a plan I detailed, they’ll need the 2029 first-rounder to do it.

No. 3: Team Mike selects the Knicks’ 2027 first-round pick

The Knicks need to maintain as many of their long-term draft assets as possible. They’ll need first-round picks to either replenish their talent base or to trade for help. Or there also is the possibility that it all goes bad and they need to re-start from a bad place, and this is how they get high-end talent in place. Basic rule: try to trade as few future firsts as possible and especially the further out they’re available. Too many things can go wrong.

No. 4: Team Fred selects Quentin Grimes

Let’s say the Knicks trade for Mitchell. Let’s say they do it with the hopes of bringing in another star two or three years down the line. There’s great uncertainty in that plan — not just in if the other headliner will come but also in who he could be or what style that guy plays. Stars disrupt the way a team operates. For example..adding an All-Star, ball-dominant point guard shifts an offense’s cadence differently than an All-NBA, slashing wing would. But there is one similarity between the two: you’re not continuing business as usual if you acquire either. The beauty of Grimes is he fits next to everyone. He’s the Knicks’ best current perimeter defender. He is a knock-down 3-point shooter, moves off the ball and attacks closeouts. He showed off improved passing at summer league. Drop Grimes onto all 30 teams and he can help immediately without disrupting the ecosystem on either side of the ball. There’s tremendous value in that. I considered taking the 2025 first-rounder here, but the security of Grimes pushed me over the edge. He’s only one year into his career, and yet, we know he’s good already.

No. 5: Team Mike selects the 2028 first-round pick swap rights

This might be a little surprising — I know Fred was a little surprised when I made this pick — but this follows my basic principle: The further out from the deal you are, keep as much control of those picks as you can. Let’s call this the Jamal Murray Rule. Or the Gordon Hayward Rule.

No. 6: Team Fred selects the Knicks’ 2025 first-round pick

The Knicks’ goal in a Mitchell trade would be to maintain as much of their future as they can while massively improving their present. It’s why Mike and I both gravitate to the picks over the players.

No. 7: Team Mike selects Immanuel Quickley

I deviated from my protect the picks at all costs philosophy to take Quickley because I think he’s a young, cost-controlled playmaker who you can play in the backcourt with Mitchell or who can bring some juice off the bench. He’s probably been underutilized his first two years in New York but a Mitchell trade could clear out guard minutes, as well as some more willingness from head coach Tom Thibodeau to play him. If you look at the career trajectories for Quickley and Jalen Brunson via DARKO, they match up well, and Quickley bested him by EPM last season. The Knicks paid $104 million to Brunson this summer, so keeping Quickley at his salary seems like it’s worth bargaining for.

No. 8: Team Fred selects the 2026 first-round pick swap rights

I’m going to trash talk a little: This is the best value pick in the draft. There is a world where the Knicks acquire Mitchell and a decade down the line we consider 2026 swap rights the best piece the Jazz acquired. Imagine if the Knicks trade for Mitchell and it all goes south. They remain sub-.500. They can’t get another star to join. They wallow below the playoff picture. Well, Mitchell can become a free agent in 2025, as can Jalen Brunson, as can Randle. What if they all leave, and the Knicks are left with nothing for the 2025-26 season? At some point, you have to mitigate risk. The former Brooklyn Nets regime must still have nightmares about the 2017 draft swap they gave to the Boston Celtics, which handed the Celtics a No. 1 pick that they traded for Jayson Tatum. If I’m making a Mitchell deal, holding onto 2026 swap rights would help me sleep if only because I’d know that if it all tanked, then I’d have a high pick to begin another restructuring in ‘26.

No. 9: Team Mike selects Obi Toppin

My thinking here was: if the Knicks get Mitchell, would their likely first be better or worse than Toppin? I decided to bet on the 24-year-old lottery pick. I thought the Knicks should have picked someone else when they took Toppin eighth in the 2020 draft and still do (that someone then and now is Tyrese Haliburton) but that’s in the past. Toppin had lottery pick talent and I’ve heard of at least one team that had him in their top-five on their board that year. He had a poor start to his career but he’s grown since then. By keeping Toppin, the Knicks keep a big who could play a more uptempo game alongside Brunson and Mitchell, if they’d ever trend that way, but also give them a safety net if and when they trade Randle. I think there’s still a good amount of debate on how good Toppin is and could be but he’s likely a better prospect than who a Mitchell-led team would net in the 2023 draft.

No. 10: Team Fred selects the Knicks’ 2023 first-round pick

I’ll snag the only Knicks first-rounder remaining on the board. As to why I passed on Toppin: Thibodeau has limited his playing time, and the front office, meanwhile, continually constructs a roster that discourages the head coach from playing him. The Knicks brought back their starting center, Mitchell Robinson, and signed another center, Isaiah Hartenstein. They held onto Randle. Thibodeau is no more incentivized to play a Toppin-Randle frontcourt now than he was in 2021-22. If Toppin is bound for 16 minutes a game once again, he might be more valuable to the Jazz, who would plan on giving him a consequential role.

No. 11: Team Mike selects the Bucks’ 2025 first-round pick

(NOTE: The pick is top-four protected in 2025, then extinguishes if it does not convey that season.)

Picking between the platter of assorted protected future picks the Knicks own was probably the most frustrating part of this exercise. This pick is the most lightly protected of all the non-Knicks picks, so, hey, take a shot at Bucks calamity. Even dynasties have bad years eventually (see the Warriors). Maybe that 2024-25 season is the one that all goes haywire for the Bucks.

No. 12: Team Fred selects the Wizards’ 2023 first-round pick

(NOTE: The pick is top-14 protected in 2023, top-12 protected in ‘24, top-10 protected in ‘25, top-eight protected in ‘26, then becomes two second-round picks if it does not convey by then.)

I have this pick ranked as the Knicks’ best one from another team. It is less protected than the Bucks’ one, but the most-likely scenario is that the Bucks continue to be good as long as Giannis Antetokounmpo is around. Meanwhile, the Wizards gun for the playoffs and commonly barely miss out. This is one of the picks the Knicks received in their series of trades on 2022 NBA Draft night, when they sent out No. 11 to the Oklahoma City Thunder. With the way Washington rolls, it’s possible this ends up around the same range as the one they dealt to OKC but in 2024, ‘25 or ‘26.

No. 13: Team Mike selects the Pistons’ 2023 first-round pick

(NOTE: The pick is top-18 protected in 2023, top-18 protected in ‘24, top-13 protected in ‘25, top-11 protected in ‘26 and top-nine protected in ‘27, then becomes a second-round pick if it does not convey by then.

I just didn’t want to bet on Luka Doncic to miss the postseason next season.

No. 14: Team Fred selects the Mavericks’ 2023 first-round pick

(NOTE: The pick is top-10 protected in 2023, ‘24 and ‘25, then turns into a second-round pick if it does not convey by then.)

Simple logic here: I’m taking the final available first-round pick. Mike and I agree this is the Knicks’ least-valuable first-rounder.

No. 15: Team Mike selects the 2024 first-round pick swap rights

Hey, maybe Thibodeau was trying to tell us something by not playing Reddish, the 21-year-old archetypal wing two years removed from being a top-10 pick. So, I’ll take the swap.

No. 16: Team Fred selects Cam Reddish

Considering he has many of the physical tools, it’s possible that we’ll both look foolish for letting Reddish fall so far, but it’s difficult to justify selecting him higher than here. Think about it like this: Reddish asked for a trade from the Atlanta Hawks last summer. They took action quickly after. The league knew Reddish was available, and Atlanta made the price to land him clear: It would take a first-round pick. No one offered one until the Knicks traded a heavily-protected first, via the Charlotte Hornets, for him in January. Now, coming off a shoulder injury and a Knicks coach hesitant to play him, Reddish’s value is lower, which meant I couldn’t justify choosing him over any of the first-rounders or other players in our draft pool.

No. 17: Team Mike selects Miles McBride

Somebody has to go last. Sorry, Miles. You might be the best Miles to hit New York since Miles Morales but circumstances worked against you.


Related reading

What should Knicks be willing to trade for Donovan Mitchell?
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Jazz’s Donovan Mitchell to Knicks? Why New York has the pieces to make it happen

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