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‘Ladies Of The ’80s: A Divas Christmas’ Stars Talk Lifetime Movie, Former Leading Men, And Intimate Scenes They’d Like To Forget – Deadline

  1. ‘Ladies Of The ’80s: A Divas Christmas’ Stars Talk Lifetime Movie, Former Leading Men, And Intimate Scenes They’d Like To Forget Deadline
  2. ‘Ladies of the ’80s’ bombshells Loni Anderson, Morgan Fairchild on choosing to be grateful Fox News
  3. Divas of the ’80s, 40 Years of Thriller, All About Agatha Christie, ’60 Minutes’ on ‘Barbie’s Director TV Insider
  4. 80s stars Loni Anderson, Donna Mills, Nicolette Sheridan and more look amazing in reunion for Lifetime… The US Sun
  5. Tune in Tonight: Lifetime puts nostalgic stunt casting in our stockings The Republic
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SAG-AFTRA Members Say They’d Rather Stay on Strike Than ‘Cave’ to a Bad Deal – Variety

  1. SAG-AFTRA Members Say They’d Rather Stay on Strike Than ‘Cave’ to a Bad Deal Variety
  2. Thousands Of Stars Including Sarah Paulson, Chelsea Handler, Jon Hamm, Daveed Diggs, Christian Slater & Sandra Oh Tell SAG-AFTRA Leadership: “We Would Rather Stay On Strike Than Take A Bad Deal” Deadline
  3. Top Earning Actors Are Getting Creative With Strike Proposals The Mary Sue
  4. Thousands of SAG Members Sign Letter in Solidarity of Actors Strike: “We Have Not Come All This Way to Cave Now” Hollywood Reporter
  5. George Clooney And Other Stars Paying Millions To End Actor’s Strike? Giant Freakin Robot
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Christopher Nolan Forced Studio Execs to Watch Cillian Murphy’s Batman Audition So They’d Agree With Casting Him as Scarecrow Instead – Variety

  1. Christopher Nolan Forced Studio Execs to Watch Cillian Murphy’s Batman Audition So They’d Agree With Casting Him as Scarecrow Instead Variety
  2. Cillian Murphy Never Read ‘Dark Knight Rises’ Script Before Filming: ‘I Didn’t Want to Spoil It’ Yahoo Entertainment
  3. Cillian Murphy Has Been Waiting to be Christopher Nolan’s Leading Man Rolling Stone
  4. Christopher Nolan and Cillian Murphy talk Batman, Oppenheimer, more Entertainment Weekly News
  5. “I don’t actually want to read the script”: Cillian Murphy Accepted Christopher Nolan’s Offer in $1B Movie to Shoot His Favorite Scene to Avoid Spoilers FandomWire
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The Mars Rover Just Caught a Glimpse of Something Scientists Never Thought They’d See

When it comes to space science, there is still a whole world out there we know very little about. Even some of the floating rocks up there that have been studied for a while, like Mars, astronomers are still learning more about, and their findings continue to shock us all. Now, the latest Mars discovery proves a theory scientists have held for a while, but never thought they’d actually see. Here’s what you need to know.

According to Space.com, NASA’s Perseverance rover, which is currently hanging out on Mars, was able to capture a moment of perfect conditions, proving a theory astronomers have held for a long while: The rover captured a sun halo.

“On Earth, when conditions are just right, ice crystals in the atmosphere can warp sunlight to create the appearance of a bright spot on either side of the sun, or of a halo ringing it,” Space.com explains. Astronomers long believed that the optical phenomenon could happen on other plants. But in a decade of exploring, this was never captured.

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That changed on December 15, 2021, when Perseverance was able to capture the phenomenon.

“Perseverance really surprised us with some of the images that we got back in December,” Mark Lemmon, a planetary scientist at the Space Science Institute, a nonprofit research institute in Boulder, told Space.com.

“I’ve been involved with this for a long time, and we’ve looked for halos everywhere and in lots of images,” he added. “I looked at that and I thought, ‘I’m gonna have a hard time finding an explanation for this.’ Because everything has been a false alarm, and that just looks so much like a halo that I thought it was going to be a lot of work to figure out what was really going on.”

Space.com explains that when the conditions are just right, we can see the halo phenomenon here on Earth. It happens when ice crystals in the atmosphere bend sunlight to create an appearance of a bright spot or a halo around the sun.

The size and temperature of the crystals impact whether or not a halo can be seen. Also, crystals consisting of other chemicals in the atmosphere can produce a halo, but they’ll look slightly different than what we see on Earth, Space.com explains.

“It’s almost like a fingerprint that tells you what the element was, what the shape of the particle was, and then a little bit about the size,” Lemmon said.

Capturing the halo on Mars was a big moment for the researchers, who published their findings in the Sept. 3 issue of Geophysical Research Letters. Lemmon explained that seeing the halo was incredible and will teach them a lot. But in typical science fashion, he wants to replicate the findings before he gets too excited.

“I think the most important thing for us is that we’ve learned that it is a thing that can happen,” he said. “We need to look harder for it at Perseverance, at that site.”

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They got illicit Covid-19 vaccine doses — and say they’d do it again in a heartbeat

Her stomach knotted in anxiety, Ogg was ready to say she was getting her first shot when actually she was getting her third. At the time, government rules didn’t allow for third shots, even for immune-compromised people like her who failed to develop antibodies after two doses.

“I was very nervous, because I am typically an honest person, but I wasn’t going to tell them the truth if they asked me. There was just no way,” said Ogg, 55, who was born with a cardiac defect and takes medicine to suppress her immune system so she won’t reject the heart transplant she received four years ago.

Many of them didn’t want to talk publicly last year for fear of being shamed, or even criminally prosecuted, but immune-compromised people tell CNN they lied — or were prepared to lie, or at the very least misled — pharmacists and other healthcare providers to get unauthorized doses of Covid-19 vaccine.

A senior physician at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tells CNN that the agency knew about these unauthorized doses as they were happening, and that the government’s decision to later allow booster doses for this group rested largely on data generated by the very doses the government told people not to get.

The immune-compromised patients say they are allowing CNN to use their names because they want to tell their stories without shame, and want to hold the government accountable for, in their view, taking an inordinately long time to grant official approval for extra doses after studies had shown such doses were safe and possibly helpful to immune-compromised people.

“People sought [unauthorized] third shots because they feared for their life. We feared we were going to die if we contracted Covid,” said Janet Handal, a kidney transplant recipient who received her third shot in New York City in April of last year, months before the US Food and Drug Administration and the CDC gave their official OK to such shots.

It wasn’t until August 12 that the FDA amended its emergency use authorizations for Pfizer and Moderna to include a third dose for certain immune-compromised people. The next day, the CDC recommended third doses for people who are moderately to severely immune compromised.

“The CDC was not protecting me,” Handal said. “I don’t know why it took them so long to act.”

A CDC spokesperson did not respond to CNN’s request for comment.

FDA spokeswoman Abigail Capobianco said, “vaccine providers should administer COVID-19 vaccines in accordance with the current EUA.”

‘I’m a rule follower’

About 7 million American adults have moderately to severely compromised immune systems, either because they have certain diseases or take certain drugs or both, according to the CDC.

When the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines rolled out in December 2020, no one knew if immune-compromised people would benefit from them.

Dr. Dorry Segev, a transplant surgeon then at Johns Hopkins University, decided to find out.

That month, Segev and his colleagues started what he calls a “real world observational study” to see how well the vaccine worked in people with compromised immune systems.

They found that many transplant patients weren’t getting antibodies after two vaccine shots, that third shots often did elicit antibodies, and that the extra dose did not seem to cause any safety problems.

The Hopkins team’s first study, published as a research letter in the medical journal JAMA on March 15, 2021, found that only 17% of 436 transplant patients had developed detectable antibodies a few weeks after a first dose of the vaccine.
That study, along with others that had similar findings for cancer patients in France, Israel and the UK, were enough to convince French health authorities to start recommending third shots for the immune-compromised on April 6.

All of that was enough to convince Handal to get her unauthorized third shot at the end of April.

On May 5, another Hopkins research letter published in JAMA showed that out of 658 transplant patients, 46% did not have measurable antibodies after two shots.

More transplant patients started to take matters into their own hands.

The Hopkins team followed 30 patients who got no or very low antibody levels after two shots and decided on their own to get third shots.

Those third shots produced antibodies for nearly half of the 30 study participants: 12 had high levels of antibodies after the third dose, 2 had low antibody levels, and 16 had none, according to a letter published by the Hopkins researchers June 15 in the Annals of Internal Medicine.

Steven Weitzen, a heart transplant patient who lives in New Jersey, is a Hopkins study participant who got antibodies only after an unauthorized third dose.

“I’m a rule follower — that’s how I’m built,” Weitzen said. “But we had every reason to do this to save our lives.”

Weitzen and the other immune-compromised people interviewed for this story also noted that by late spring of last year, there was plenty of vaccine to go around, so they weren’t taking the shot from someone else.

On June 2, Dr. Anthony Fauci, President Biden’s chief medical adviser, noted that the vaccines weren’t working as well for immune-compromised people as for the rest of the population.

Fauci told CNN that the Hopkins study showed people on immune-suppressant drug regimens “make very poor immune responses” following vaccination, and that those patients “may feel they need an extra boost [but] we haven’t scientifically proven that that works.”

He added that the National Institutes of Health would soon start studying the best approach to protecting immune-compromised people. CNN asked Fauci if he could understand why immune-suppressed people were getting third shots ahead of those studies.

“Of course I can understand,” Fauci answered. “They know that they’re immunosuppressed, so they’re trying on their own before studies [are done] to see if they can do something about it.”

If someone had decided to wait for those study results, they would still be waiting.

The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, where Fauci is the director, is sponsoring four studies on the immune-compromised and Covid-19 vaccines, and none of them has published its findings yet, according to Anne Oplinger, a NIAID spokeswoman.

Crossing state lines to get unauthorized vaccine shots

Weitzen said he didn’t have to lie to get his third dose last May. He made an appointment, showed up at a pharmacy near his home in New Jersey, rolled up his sleeve, and was given the injection.

Others, however, say it wasn’t quite so straightforward.

Phil Canuto, a kidney transplant recipient who lives in Ohio, got his third shot on August 15, two days after the CDC recommended them for immune-compromised people.

A blood test a few weeks later showed he still had only minimal antibody levels against the virus. Over the next few months, as the Delta variant raged across the country, Canuto grew more fearful that he would contract Covid-19.

“I felt basically unprotected,” he said.

In October, the CDC updated its guidelines to say the immune-compromised could start getting fourth doses. But the agency recommended a six-month interval between third and fourth doses and only two months since Canuto’s third dose.

October passed. Winter was approaching, and with it the expectation that cases would get even higher. Canuto decided he had to act to protect himself.

“I was obviously worried and not quite sure what to do. Ohio has a pretty good database, so if I’d gone in Ohio, they would have picked up” that he was getting a fourth shot earlier than allowed under CDC guidelines.

So, two days after Thanksgiving, while visiting family in Pennsylvania, Canuto went to a pharmacy and said he was there to get his first shot.

He intentionally sought out a Moderna vaccine, which has been shown to be slightly more effective than Pfizer or Johnson & Johnson. Moderna cut its dosage in half for its third shot, which is another reason Canuto told the pharmacist he was there for his first shot, so he would get the full-strength version.

After his first three shots, Canuto had felt fine. But the day after his fourth shot, he developed a fever, chills and a headache.

“I was ecstatic,” he said. “I never felt so happy to feel crappy.”

A blood test two weeks later showed he had high levels of antibodies.

“I was nervous when I got my fourth shot because I don’t like to lie or misrepresent myself,” Canuto said. “But the risk of getting caught and thrown out and embarrassed was worth the possibility of getting an antibody response. I’m absolutely glad I did it.”

Ogg and Handal also said their antibodies shot up after their unauthorized doses.

Around the time that Ogg got her unauthorized third shot on July 1, the Delta variant started to rage in the US. While she stayed home as much as possible, she still had to go out to doctors’ appointments and lab tests for her heart condition.

“There was a chance I could have gotten Covid, and if I had gotten it, there was a really high chance I would have died,” she said. “I don’t like to not be honest, but I did it to save my life and I would do it again.”

High anxiety

All of the patients interviewed for this story were ahead of the CDC and the FDA.

Months after Handal and Weitzen got their unauthorized third shots, and weeks after Ogg got hers, the FDA authorized them.

Canuto got his fourth dose in November, a little more than three months after his third, even though at the time the CDC recommended a six-month wait. Then in February, the CDC shortened the time interval between third and fourth doses from six months to three months.

But immune-compromised people say this doesn’t take away the anxiety they felt when they had to break the rules.

“Everybody felt anxiety. I don’t know anyone who didn’t feel anxiety,” said Handal, co-founder of the Transplant Recipients and Immunocompromised Patient Advocacy Group. “Some people thought it was a crime, and we had to tell them it’s not a crime.”

Legal experts say she’s essentially correct. CDC guidelines are just that — guidelines, not laws — and the FDA’s emergency use authorizations direct health care providers, not patients, about what they can and cannot do.

Even if a patient were at a government vaccine distribution site and falsely attested to something on a written form, “there’s still no material fraud against the United States,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the O’Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law at Georgetown Law. “And even if you could construe this as a crime, no one would prosecute it.”

Gostin said after what the immune-compromised have been through — getting vaccines that often didn’t produce antibodies, staying isolated at home for far longer than others – “to criminalize this would be a moral outrage.”

He said the FDA and the CDC “should have acted much more quickly in protecting the immunocompromised” and that “if anyone abdicated responsibility it was our agencies, not the frightened individual.”

Robert Field, a professor of law and public policy at Drexel University, was more sympathetic to the federal agencies, saying the pandemic presented “a brand new challenge for the regulatory apparatus” because the vaccines and the rules around them were developed so quickly.

“It is really new public health terrain,” Field said. “I don’t think you can put this all on regulators. They have to balance safety and potential benefits of the vaccines in the face of limited knowledge.”

Field added that legally, it made sense that the FDA had to first authorize additional doses before the CDC could recommend them.

“I don’t think [the CDC] can encourage people to do something that is not in compliance with an FDA authorization,” he said.

He added that he understood why immune-compromised people chose to get the doses without a green light from any government agency.

“From a public health point of view, it certainly made sense for people to get the booster dose,” he added. “It’s an unfortunate bureaucratic contradiction, and we’ve seen a lot of those under Covid because the public health threat and the application of the laws are so new. This is largely uncharted territory.”

CDC knew about illicit doses

It turns out the CDC knew the whole time that people were breaking the rules, according to a senior physician there.

“We were aware of the phenomenon,” the CDC doctor said. “We actually monitor it — for those states that share their vaccine registry with us, we could see that people were engaging in this practice.”

And of course, CDC scientists read the Hopkins studies. In fact, the CDC doctor said the government’s okay for extra doses relied to a great extent on the Hopkins data on people who broke the rules and got unauthorized shots — something Segev, who led the Hopkins study calls “a strange irony.”

The CDC physician was asked what he told immune-compromised friends last year who wanted to know if they should get unauthorized doses.

“As a federal official, I cannot officially endorse that,” the doctor answered. “But as a human being, I understand that. If it’s going to allow you to take care of something personal and you’re ok with it ethically and there are no medical contraindications, I would endorse it.”

The doctor asked not to be identified based on longstanding norms about government employees speaking to the media.

Segev, the transplant surgeon who led the Hopkins research and is now at NYU Langone Health, said he understands why the initial vaccine clinical trials excluded immune-compromised people. He said it was known that the vaccines might not work well in this group, and their poor results could skew the results for everyone else.

But he wonders why there weren’t separate clinical trials done early on with immune-compromised participants.

“That wasn’t done, and it put everyone in a bind,” he said.

He thinks back to the participants in his study who went against FDA and CDC rules last spring and summer and got extra doses, making every effort to protect themselves just before and during the Delta wave.

He shudders to think what would have happened if they’d followed along with government guidance and not gotten those additional shots, going unprotected as Delta spread.

“It would have been a disaster,” he said. “An absolute disaster.”

CNN’s Danielle Herman contributed to this report.

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Kanye West Said He “Embarrassed” Kim Kardashian When He Revealed They’d Considered Aborting Their Daughter North

Kanye West is continuing to reflect on his split from Kim Kardashian — and on his role in the demise of their marriage


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In recent weeks, Kanye has been increasingly vocal about his failed relationship with Kim, who filed for divorce in February after almost seven years of marriage citing “irreconcilable differences.”

Now, in a new video shared on Thanksgiving, Kanye — who has legally changed his name to Ye — offered further insight into how he’s been coping since the split, while reflecting on and “taking accountability” for his mistakes.


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Kanye began by introducing what he’s titled a “Thanksgiving prayer,” and declaring his thanks for his “blood family, fans, and haters,” referring in part to the four children he shares with Kim: North, 8, Saint, 5, Chicago, 3, and Psalm, 2.

After first speaking of his son Saint, who he referred to as his “mini me,” Kanye went on to express his desire to be reunited with his children.

“All I think about every day is how I get my family back together, and how I heal the pain that I’ve caused,” Kanye said.


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“I take accountability for my actions… new word alert: misactions,” he continued. “The one thing that all my successes and failures have in common is me.”


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Kanye went on to address perhaps one of the biggest contributors to his and Kim’s failed marriage: his Republican image.


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If you needed a quick reminder, Kanye first publicly endorsed Donald Trump in an extensive speech given at his Saint Pablo tour in 2016. “If I would’ve voted, I would’ve voted for Trump,” he said on stage.


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In 2018, Kanye faced more criticism when he continued to share his support of Trump, making a visit to the White House and posting a series of selfies in a “Make America Great Again” hat.

At the time, Kim tweeted in support of her husband — who had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder two years earlier — writing that the media was “demonizing” his behavior and portraying him as “erratic,” which caused her to also face severe criticism.

To the media trying to demonize my husband let me just say this… your commentary on Kanye being erratic & his tweets being disturbing is actually scary. So quick to label him as having mental health issues for just being himself when he has always been expressive is not fair


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A couple of years later in July 2020, Kanye launched his campaign for presidency. During his first (and only) political press rally speech, Kanye shockingly revealed that he and Kim had considered an abortion when she was pregnant with North — who was aged 7 at the time.


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Delivering an anti-abortion speech in South Carolina, Kanye first said his father had wanted to abort him but his mother had “saved his life”, before going on to share that he too had raised the subject of abortion with Kim. “I almost killed my daughter,” he said in tears.

The comments sparked intense backlash and were ultimately deemed the “final straw” behind Kim’s decision to file for divorce earlier this year — something that she opened up about in detail on the last season of Keeping Up With The Kardashians.

Now addressing his political campaign in his recent Thanksgiving prayer, Kanye admitted that he’d “embarrassed” Kim and their family with his speech.


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“Good Lord, my wife did not like me wearing the red hat,” he said, referring to the MAGA hat he wore publicly while supporting Trump.


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“Being a good wife, she just wanted to protect me and our family,” he said. “I made me and our family a target by not aligning with Hollywood’s political stance, and that was hard for our marriage.”


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Kanye went on to discuss his 2020 US presidential election run, noting that it was “without proper preparation” and with “no allies on either side.”


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“I embarrassed my wife in the way that I presented information about our family, during the one — and thank God only — press conference,” he said, seemingly referring to the comments about North.

“All my dad had to say afterwards was, ‘Write your speech next time, son,’” he added.

Kanye also tweeted an apology to Kim in July last year, shortly after his comments caused huge controversy. Kim had shared a statement to her Instagram story days prior, writing, “Anyone who has [Bipolar disorder] or has a loved one in their life who does, knows how incredibly complicated and painful it is to understand.”

Elsewhere in his prayer, Kanye discussed his experience with Bipolar disorder, struggles with alcohol, “ego,” and “self-righteous Christian behavior.”


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“I would drink to take the stress away and knock the edge off,” Kanye said. “Drinking affected my health and the health of the people around me, because I already had a hair trigger temper and this just heightened it.”

Kanye also revealed he’s been “on and off” his prescribed medication, leaving him “susceptible to other episodes.”


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“I went into a manic episode in 2016 and I was placed under heavy medication,” he said. “Since then, I went on and off the medication which left me susceptible to other episodes, which my wife and family and fans have had to endure.” 

In the spirit of Thanksgiving, Kanye rounded things off by expressing his gratitude toward Kim, his family and God.

“This Thanksgiving, I’m thankful for the family that my wife has given me. I’m thankful for the life that God has given me, and I’m thankful for your time, attention, and patience,” he said.

This all comes just a day after Kanye delivered a speech at the Los Angeles Mission’s Annual Thanksgiving event, where he revealed he believes God will bring him and Kim back together.


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“We’ve made mistakes. I’ve made mistakes. I’ve publicly done things that were not acceptable as a husband,” Kanye admitted.


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Kanye went on to share that he wanted to “change the narrative” of his and Kim’s failed marriage, before seemingly pleading to be “back at home” with their children.

“I have to be next to my children as much as possible,” he said. “… I’m trying to express this in the most sane way possible, the most calm way possible: I need to be back at home.”

“If the enemy can separate Kimye, there’s going to be millions of families that feel like that separation is OK,” Kanye said. “But when the kingdom, when God brings Kimye together, there’s going to be millions of families that are going to be influenced to see that they can overcome the work of the separation of trauma the devil has used to capitalize to keep people in misery.”

Three weeks prior, Kanye shocked fans by claiming that he had “never seen the divorce papers,” in his now-viral appearance on the Drink Champs podcast where he spoke out about his split from Kim for the very first time.

In the two-part episode, Kanye repeatedly insisted that Kim is still his wife, before going on to share that their four children also want them to be together.

“My kids want their parents to stay together. … I want us to be together,” he said.

Though Kim hasn’t yet publicly addressed Kanye’s comments, she has attracted attention elsewhere recently after seemingly confirming her rumored relationship with Pete Davidson.


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As you’ve probably seen, Kim and Pete have been pictured out on a series of dinner dates in recent weeks. Fans began speculating that they were dating after they were photographed hand-in-hand at a theme park in October, shortly after they’d shared a kiss during a skit on Saturday Night Live.


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Most recently, the pair were seen out at dinner in LA, with Pete sporting what appeared to be a large hickey on his neck.



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Biden appears to mock Americans’ intelligence, questions whether ‘they’d understand’ supply chain issues

President Biden appeared to mock the intelligence of the American people on Saturday when discussing the ongoing supply chain crises in America, questioning whether “they’d understand” the topic at hand.

Biden’s remarks came during a press conference as he answered a question from a reporter on criticism he has faced from Rep. Abigail Spanberger, D-Va., who said: “Nobody elected him to be F.D.R., they elected him to be normal and stop the chaos.”

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President Joe Biden jokes about which reporter to call on for a question as he speaks about the bipartisan infrastructure bill in the State Dinning Room of the White House, Saturday, Nov. 6, 2021, in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

“I don’t intend to be anybody but Joe Biden, that’s who I am,” Biden said. “What I’m trying to do is do the things I ran on to do, and look, people out there are ordinary, hard-working Americans [who have been] put through the ringer the last couple of years.”

“People are worried,” Biden added, suggesting that people do not understand why “the price of agricultural products” has increased.

“If we were all going out and having lunch together and I said let’s ask whoever’s in the next table, no matter what restaurant we’re in, have them explain the supply chain to us. Do you think they’d understand what we’re talking about?” Biden asked.

The president said “they’re smart people,” but concluded that current crises are a part of a “complicated world.”

US President Joe Biden delivers remarks on the passage of the Bipartisan Infrastructure Deal and the rule that will allow the passage of the Build Back Better Act in the State Dining Room at the White House in Washington, DC on November 6, 2021. – The President and the First Lady will then travel to Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, for the weekend. (Photo by ROBERTO SCHMIDT / AFP) (Photo by ROBERTO SCHMIDT/AFP via Getty Images)

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“We’ve never faced anything like this,” Biden added. “You can understand why people are upset. Whether you have a PhD or you’re working in a restaurant, it’s confusing and so people are understandably worried.”

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Biden then said he was going to try and “explain to the American people” what supply chain issues America faces, telling the reporters in the room who “write for a living” that he has not seen any reporter “explain supply chain very well.”

“This is a confusing time,” Biden stated.

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Half of unvaccinated workers say they’d rather quit than get a shot

Are workplace vaccine mandates prompting some employees to quit rather than get a shot?

A hospital in Lowville, New York, for example, had to shut down its maternity ward when dozens of staffers left their jobs rather than get vaccinated. At least 125 employees at Indiana University Health resigned after refusing to take the vaccine.

And several surveys have shown that as many as half of unvaccinated workers insist they would leave their jobs if forced to get the shot, which has raised alarms among some that more mandates could lead to an exodus of workers in many industries.

But how many will actually follow through?

Strong words

In June 2021, we conducted a nationwide survey, funded by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, that gave us a sample of 1,036 people who mirrored the diverse makeup of the U.S. We plan to publish the survey in October.

We asked respondents to tell us what they would do if “vaccines were required” by their employer. We prompted them with several possible actions, and they could check as many as they liked.

We found that 16% of employed respondents would quit, start looking for other employment or both if their employer instituted a mandate. Among those who said they were “vaccine hesitant” – almost a quarter of respondents – we found that 48% would quit or look for another job.

Other polls have shown similar results. A Kaiser Family Foundation survey put the share of workers who would quit at 50%.

Separately, we found in our survey that 63% of all workers said a vaccine mandate would make them feel safer.

Quieter actions

But while it is easy and cost-free to tell a pollster you’ll quit your job, actually doing so when it means losing a paycheck you and your family may depend upon is another matter.

And based on a sample of companies that already have vaccine mandates in place, the actual number who do resign rather than get the vaccine is much smaller than the survey data suggest.

Houston Methodist Hospital, for example, required its 25,000 workers to get a vaccine by June 7. Before the mandate, about 15% of its employees were unvaccinated. By mid-June, that percentage had dropped to 3% and hit 2% by late July. A total of 153 workers were fired or resigned, while another 285 were granted medical or religious exemptions and 332 were allowed to defer it.

At Jewish Home Family in Rockleigh, New Jersey, only five of its 527 workers quit following its vaccine mandate. Two out of 250 workers left Westminster Village in Bloomington, Illinois, and even in deeply conservative rural Alabama, a state with one of the lowest vaccine uptake rates, Hanceville Nursing & Rehab Center lost only six of its 260 employees.

Delta Airlines didn’t mandate a shot, but in August it did subject unvaccinated workers to a US$200 per month health insurance surcharge. Yet the airline said fewer than 2% of employees have quit over the policy.

And at Indiana University Health, the 125 workers who quit are out of 35,800 total employees, or 0.3%.

Making it easy

Past vaccine mandates, such as for the flu, have led to similar outcomes: Few people actually quit their jobs over them.

And our research suggests in public communications there are a few things employers can do to minimize the number of workers who quit over the policy.

It starts with building trust with employees. Companies should also make it as easy as possible to get vaccinated – such as by providing on-site vaccine drives, paid time off to get the shot and deal with side effects, and support for child care or transportation.

Finally, research shows it helps if companies engage trusted messengers including doctors, colleagues and family to share information on the vaccine.

In other words, vaccine mandates are unlikely to result in a wave of resignations – but they are likely to lead to a boost in vaccination rates.

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