Windows 11 is officially out, but if you’ve got an AMD Ryzen processor, you might want to hold off on updating for a bit: the company is reporting that its chips might have issues with the new OS that could cause performance drops of up to 15 percent in some cases.
AMD and Microsoft have found two main issues with Windows 11 on Ryzen. The first is that Windows 11 may cause L3 cache latency to triple. AMD says that the issue could cause 3–5 percent worse performance in most affected applications, while some games (AMD specifically calls out those “commonly used for eSports”) could see performance dips of 10–15 percent.
Windows 11 is also having issues with AMD’s “preferred core” technology, which usually aims to shift threads over to the fastest core on a processor. AMD warns that users could see performance issues on CPU-reliant tasks, specifically on processors with more than eight cores about 65W TDP.
AMD and Microsoft have already confirmed that they are “actively investigating these known issues for resolution via software updates.” The two companies promise that both a Windows update and a software update are planned for later this month to try and resolve those issues. But in the meantime, you might want to stick with Windows 10 until AMD and Microsoft sort things out.
Yesterday, Twitter leaker Greymon55, posted a tweet stating that the AMD Rembrandt APUs (Ryzen 6000 series) are already in mass production which means we could see a launch in Q1 2022 or earlier.
AMD Rembrandt APUs (Ryzen 6000 Series) Rumored To Be In Mass Production
If the above information is true, it is speculated that we will see the next-gen APU lineup from AMD much sooner.
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Rembrandt is already in mass production.
— Greymon55 (@greymon55) September 3, 2021
Rembrandt is the codename for AMD’s next-gen APU that features AMD’s enhanced Zen3+ core architecture as well as featuring the RDNA 2 integrated GPUs. It is fabricated utilizing TSMC’s 6nm process node and will utilize both LPDDR5 and DDR5 capability. The TDP on the Rembrandt APUs will range between 15 to 65 watts, with max cores/threads of 8/16. It is expected to be branded under the Ryzen 6000 family.
AMD Rembrandt-H (Ryzen 6000H) APUs:
After the release of Rembrandt, AMD will make way with releasing Rembrandt-H and U lines, along with Barcelo-U. The H-series is for AMD’s high-end notebooks and their U-Series for their Ultra-low powered notebooks. The Rembrandt-H will feature Zen3+ technology, 6nm process node, Navi 2X (RDNA2) GPU architecture, TDP of 35-45 watts, as well as 8/16 max core/threads.
AMD Rembrandt-U (Ryzen 6000U) APUs:
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Rembrandt-U will utilize the Zen3+ technology as well, 6nm process node, Navi (RDNA2) GPU architecture, TDP of 15-25 watts, as well as 8/16 max core/threads. Barcelo-U will base itself on Zen3 technology, 7nm process node, Vega 4th gen GPU architecture, TDP of 15-25 watts, as well as 8/16 max core/threads.
AMD VanGogh was the first APU with an integrated Navi2 iGPU. By the information we had received over the last few years, it was expected that we would see Rembrandt as soon as early next year but based on this report, we may see an announcement earlier. Twitter source, Rogame (@_rogame), posted this tweet towards the end of 2020, showing the Cezanne family, Lucienne-U, VanGogh, and Pollock APUs that would be released during this year.
DragonCrest and Pollock families are to fall under the Ultra-low TDP notebooks that are expected to release in 2022. The current AMD Ryzen line on AMD’s website is the AMD Ryzen 9 5980HX, which shares a lot of the same features as the successors we are seeing with the exception of updated LPDDR5/DDR5 memory capability and utilizing the newest Ryzen 6000 series of processors.
We do not have an exact date for the Rembrandt series, but we will continue to follow the story as more information becomes available.
The AMD Ryzen 5000HS Series will see two new CPUs, the Ryzen 9 5900HS and Ryzen 7 5800HS CE (or Creator Edition). These CPUs showed up on Lenovo’s product page, leaked by momomo_us on Twitter. KOMACHI_ENSAKA, also on the Twitter platform, validated momomo_us’ info with his own.
AMD Ryzen 9 5900HS & Ryzen 7 5800HS Creator Edition Laptop CPUs Coming Soon With Higher Clocks & More Models
This ends a period where ASUS was the only AMD Ryzen HS-series laptop manufacturer. ASUS’ slim laptops will now be joined by both the Lenovo Yoga 14S and Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro. There is not a vast amount of information on the two new CPUs (AMD Ryzen 9 5900HS & Ryzen 7 5800HS Creator Edition) outside of higher base clock speeds, up to 400Mhz.
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A Lenovo Yoga laptop offers a premium experience for work, creativity, and everyday use. Designed with a unique 360 degree hinge that allows the screen to fold backwards, it has four modes laptop, stand, tent, and tablet mode. Stylish, powerful, and innovative, this PC adapts to any work or home space.
If you’re looking for versatility, a Lenovo 2 in 1 PC offers the best of both worlds. Our touchscreen laptops are thinner, lighter, and stronger than ever before and provide tremendous flexibility for designers, illustrators, and other business professionals. The Yoga also offers the world’s first rotating sound bar that lets you enjoy 3D-surround audio while in laptop or tablet mode. Select Yoga 2 in 1s feature an Intel Evo Platform equipped with a powerful 11th Gen Intel Core processors.
The leaked list shows several Yoga Slim 7 Pro SKUs for both European and Asian markets, but non for the US markets. It remains to be seen if they will be available at some time in the US, as well as if Lenovo and ASUS will remain the only two companies utilizing the AMD Ryzen 9 5900HS & Ryzen 7 5800HS Creator Edition CPUs.
The Lenovo Yoga 14S utilizes a unique 45W mode that is for the AMD Ryzen 7 5800HS model. When activated, the laptop is stated to perform 75% higher than other slim laptops that run with non-customized 15W levels. The Yoga Slim 7 Pro is aimed at content creators and are not as focused on extreme highs in graphic quality. There is speculation that both models offer 35W performance initially.
Lenovo’s new Yoga Models are decked with 16GB of LPDDR4X-4266 memory and several PCIe 3.0 SSD choices that are going to be produced as high as 1TB of storage. Lenovo has not released the TDP information for either model. The new models utilize the NVIDIA GeForce MX450 GPU, a 14 inch display that showcases up to 400 nits of brightness and refresh rates as high as 90HZ.
Earlier this year, AMD launched its Zen 3 based desktop processor solutions with integrated graphics. Marketed as the Ryzen 5000G family, these processors are the latest offering to combine AMD’s high-performing Zen 3 cores with tried-and-tested Vega 8 graphics, all built on TSMC’s 7nm process. As desktop processors, AMD made them available to system builders for a few months, allowing the company to keep track of stock levels and have a consistent demand during a high-demand phase for silicon. But on August 5th, they will be made available to buy at retail, and we’ve got the most important models to test.
The AMD Ryzen 5000G APUs: Cezanne Silicon
AMD actually came to market with its Zen 3-based integrated graphics silicon back in December 2020. The Cezanne silicon, with eight Zen 3 cores and up to Vega 8 graphics, was first earmarked for laptop use. We saw it come to market in that fashion for the 15 W and 45 W segments, and tested it in the ASUS ROG Flow X13 laptop in a 35 W variation, paired with a discrete graphics card.
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As a mobile chip in both low power and high power segments, it had to do duty as both a processor and graphics at 15 W, but mainly as a processor at 45 W powering a discrete graphics card. For the desktop processors, AMD cranks up the power even more to 65 W, where it is expected to perform either as a good CPU powering a GPU, or as an integrated graphics solution and do everything.
The Ryzen 5000G processor series is an upgrade over last year’s Ryzen 4000G processor series. AMD co-designed both of these processor families to re-use key parts of the chip design, enabling a fast time-to-market and quicker upgrade cycle for AMD’s partners (OEMs), like Dell, HP, Lenovo, and others. The biggest re-use between the two families is the graphics, which has Vega 8 graphics on both, and although there’s a hefty frequency bump for 5000G in mobile, the desktop parts actually see a decline. We expect AMD to have its latest RDNA 2 graphics in its G processors next time around, but for now it stays the same because that helps expedite the design for these processors.
AMD CEO, Dr. Lisa Su, with Cezanne silicon
The major difference between the 4000G and 5000G processors is that the new hardware uses eight of AMD’s latest Zen 3 CPU cores, which is an upgrade over the eight Zen 2 cores from last year. The highlight is the +19% raw performance uplift when comparing the two at the same frequency. The second major difference is that the 4000G processors never technically came to retail (but we reviewed them anyway), while AMD is making the Ryzen 7 5700G and Ryzen 5 5600G as individual products that customers can buy.
Under the hood, there are a few more key changes that enthusiasts will be interested in. The 8-core Zen 3 design doubles the L3 cache per core, but also combines it into a single 16 MB L3 cache structure. This enables any of the eight cores to access the full cache, reducing latency to main memory (from 4 MB to 16 MB). The previous design had two clusters of four Zen 2 cores, so while it still had 8 cores, each cluster only had access to 4 MB of L3 cache. This is of sizable importance when it comes to workloads that sit in the 4 MB to 16 MB memory space, such as integrated graphics gaming and discrete graphics.
The new processor is 180 mm2 in size, compared to 156 mm2 of the last generation, but still fits into the same socket. It contains 10.7 billion transistors, which is up from 9.8 billion. This means an effective decrease in transistor density, although we know that Zen 3 cores are slightly larger than Zen 2 cores, and some additional security measures have been added.
There are six desktop processors in this family, and two of them are coming to store shelves.
AMD Ryzen 5000G Series APUs
AnandTech
Core / Thread
Base Freq
Turbo Freq
GPU CUs
GPU Freq
PCIe *
TDP
Ryzen 5000G
Ryzen 7 5700G
8 / 16
3800
4600
8
2000
16+4+4
65 W
Ryzen 7 5700GE
8 / 16
3200
4600
8
2000
16+4+4
35 W
Ryzen 5 5600G
6 / 12
3900
4400
7
1900
16+4+4
65 W
Ryzen 5 5600GE
6 / 12
3400
4400
7
1900
16+4+4
35 W
Ryzen 3 5300G
4 / 8
4000
4200
6
1700
16+4+4
65 W
Ryzen 3 5300GE
4 / 8
3600
4200
6
1700
16+4+4
35 W
*PCIe lanes on the SoC are listed in GFX+Chipset+Storage
The top part is a Ryzen 7 5700G, featuring eight cores and sixteen threads, with a base frequency of 3.8 GHz and a turbo frequency of 4.6 GHz. The Vega 8 graphics runs at 2000 MHz, and we get 16 lanes of PCIe 3.0 for graphics, plus another four for storage. TDP of the chip is rated at 65 W, although in most motherboards the Package Power Tracking will bump power up to 88 W. The Ryzen 7 5700G will have an MSRP of $359.
The second part is a Ryzen 5 5600G, featuring six cores and sixteen threads, with a base frequency of 3.9 GHz and a turbo frequency of 4.6 GHz. It drops down in graphics to Vega 7, running at 1900 MHz, but has the same PCIe 3.0 and TDP settings as the Ryzen 7. AMD has indicated that the 5600G should retail for $259.
We’re also testing a third part in this review, the Ryzen 3 5300G, which sits near the bottom of the stack. With only four cores and eight threads, up to 4.2 GHz turbo and Vega 6 graphics running at 1700 MHz, this processor contains only half the L3 cache (8 MB total) of the other two. It sounds like it would make a nice $150 processor if it came to retail, and users can pick this processor up on eBay, but it currently it sits at $272 plus shipping, making it more expensive than the 5600G. Nonetheless, as we had tested Ryzen 7/5/3 from the 4000G series, we wanted to compare up against the 5000G to see if this is a line AMD might consider going beyond OEM deployment.
This is ultimately why a staggered launch from laptop to desktop over the course of eight months allows AMD to pitch where its desktop integrated graphics processors should sit in the marketplace. These Cezanne processors use Zen 3 graphics for example, whereas the older ones had Zen 2, Zen+, and Zen before it. What makes these ones different this time around is that Intel is cutting the Ryzen 3 from retail, but the Ryzen 7 at the high-end is now available at retail. The only one that has been consistent is Ryzen 5, and we can compare the Ryzen 5 processors over the years:
Ryzen 5 APUs (65W)
AnandTech
Cores
Base Freq
Turbo Freq
L3 MB
PCIe
GPU
DDR4
Price
Zen3 7nm
Ryzen 5 5600G
8 / 16
3900
4400
16
3.0 x24
Vega8
3200
$259
Zen2 7nm
Ryzen 5 4650G
8 / 16
3700
4200
4+4
3.0 x24
Vega8
3200
OEM
Zen+ 12nm
Ryzen 5 3400G
4 / 8
3700
4200
4
3.0 x8
Vega11
2933
$149
Zen 14nm
Ryzen 5 2400G
4 / 8
3600
3900
4
3.0 x8
Vega11
2933
$169
AMD has kept the Vega graphics through all four generations, but moved down from the silicon having Vega 11 on 12nm to Vega 8 on 7nm – AMD said that this was because of density increases and finding the right balance, but also the uplift in frequency and power efficiencies the new process node provided.
As it stands, these two new processors at retail fill out Intel’s retail offerings, at least down to $259. One of the key benefits is that these two new processors are cheaper than the CPU-only offerings, but also both come with appropriate coolers when they are run at their default power modes. The difference between getting and G series processor is that the PCIe lanes are only PCIe 3.0, and the L3 cache is halved, but there’s integrated graphics. Given that modern graphics cards don’t even need PCIe 4.0 levels of bandwidth, we have to see if the cache difference and any frequency differences are worth the price difference.
AMD Ryzen 5000 CPU vs APU Comparisons
AnandTech
Core / Thread
Base Freq
Turbo Freq
GPU CUs
GPU Freq
PCIe
L3 MB
TDP
SEP
Ryzen 7
Ryzen 7 5800X
8 / 16
3800
4700
–
–
4.0 x24
32
105 W
$449
Ryzen 7 5700G
8 / 16
3800
4600
8
2000
3.0 x24
16
65 W
$359
Ryzen 5
Ryzen 5 5600X
6 / 12
3700
4600
–
–
4.0 x24
32
65 W
$299
Ryzen 5 5600G
6 / 12
3900
4400
7
1900
3.0 x24
16
65 W
$259
The key thing with the Ryzen 7 comparison is the TDP difference – why the frequency might only be 100 MHz change, at 105 W TDP (or 120W PPT), it will keep its turbo better.
Chipset Support
AMD has confirmed that X570, B550, and A520 motherboards will support the new 5000G processors. X470 and B450 motherboards might also be supported, but that depends on the motherboard manufacturer. AMD recommends a BIOS with AGESA version 1203b for full performance.
This Review
In this article, we will be testing the Ryzen 7 5700G, Ryzen 5 5600G, and Ryzen 3 5300G on our test suite, covering raw CPU performance, integrated graphics performance, but also performance when paired with a discrete GPU.
AnandTech
Example Processors
Motherboard
DRAM
PSU
SSD
AMD
Zen3 APU
Ryzen 7 5700G
GIGABYTE X570 Aorus I Pro (F34)
ADATA 32 GB DDR4-3200
Corsair AX860i
Crucial MX500 2 TB
Ryzen 5 5600G
Ryzen 3 5300G
Zen2 APU
Ryzen 7 4750G
GIGABYTE X570 Aorus I Pro (F30a)
ADATA 64 GB DDR4-3200
Corsair AX860i
Crucial MX500 2 TB
Ryzen 5 4650G
Ryzen 3 4350G
Zen+ APU
Ryzen 5 3400G
GIGABYTE X570 Aorus I Pro (F30a)
ADATA 64 GB DDR4-2933
Corsair AX860i
Crucial MX500 2 TB
Zen APU
Ryzen 5 2400G
GIGABYTE X570 Aorus I Pro (F30a)
ADATA 64 GB DDR4-2933
Corsair AX860i
Crucial MX500 2 TB
Intel
Rocket Lake
Core i7-11700K
ASUS Maximus XIII Hero
BIOS 0610
Corsair AX1600i
Crucial MX500 2TB
Broadwell
Core i7-5775C
GIGABYTE Z97X-UD5H (F10)
Geil Veloce 16 GB DDR3-1600
Antec HCP 1250W
Crucial MX500 2 TB
Core i5-5675C
Tiger Lake
Core i7-1185G7
Intel Reference
32 GB LPDDR4X
Integrated
Samsung PCIe 3.0
Many thanks to…
We must thank the following companies for kindly providing hardware for our multiple testbeds. Some of this hardware is not in this testbed specifically, but is used in other testing.
A big thanks to ADATA for the AD4U3200716G22-SGN modules for this review. They’re currently the backbone of our AMD testing.
Preliminary support for AMD’s Next-Gen Ryzen Threadripper 5000 HEDT Desktop CPUs has been added to HWiNFO. The latest software release adds support for AMD’s Zen 2 based Threadripper PRO and also the next-gen Zen 3 based Ryzen Threadripper 5000 CPUs which are rumored for a launch in the third quarter of 2021.
AMD’s Next-Gen Zen 3 Powered Ryzen Threadripper 5000 HEDT Desktop CPUs Get Initial Support, Expected To Launch in August
HWiNFO will be adding support for AMD’s next-generation Ryzen Threadripper 5000 Desktop CPUs in its upcoming release. The changelog has already been posted and confirms that the support will come in the form of improved detection for the Threadripper lineup of CPUs based on the Zen 2 & Zen 3 core architecture. You can see the changelog below:
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Enhanced sensor monitoring on ASRock Z590 OC Formula and Z590 Phantom Gaming-ITX.
Fixed unintentional waking up of some NVIDIA dGPUs disabled by Optimus technology.
Added reporting of PCI Express Resizable BAR capability and status for all devices.
Enhanced sensor monitoring on MSI Z590 PLUS, MEG Z590 UNIFY, and B560M PRO WIFI.
Enhanced monitoring of AMD Navi14.
Restored monitoring of AMD Navi21 with Radeon Adrenalin 21.3.1.
Fixed monitoring of Vcore and VDIMM on ASUS PRIME Z590-A and STRIX Z590 series.
Added ability to collapse sensor groups.
Aggregated some sensor values into nodes (collapsed by default) to reduce the amount of information on the screen.
Improved GUI responsiveness in some situations.
Enhanced sensor monitoring on EVGA Z590 FTW and Z590 DARK.
Improved support of Intel Rocket Lake.
Fixed reporting of Core Performance Order on AMD Raven, Renoir, and Cezanne.
Updated for proper support of AGESA 1.2.0.1 Patch A.
Download pre-release: v7.01, Build 4425
Improved detection of AMD ThreadRipper PRO and next-generation ThreadRipper.
Improved reporting of Intel Integrated GPU clock.
As for what the AMD Ryzen Threadripper 5000 HEDT Desktop CPUs bring to the table, one of the major changes will be the Zen 3 core architecture itself which will drive a 19% IPC uplift over the existing Zen 2 based Threadripper 3000 lineup. The Ryzen Threadripper 5000 CPUs, codenamed, Chagall, will retain 64 cores and 128 threads. The CPUs will offer higher clock speeds, rearranged cache (L3), and will feature a slightly refined 7nm process node from TSMC to offer better overall efficiency.
さらに、8月にamdは新世代のThreadRipperプロセッサをリリースする
— Yuko Yoshida (@KittyYYuko) April 4, 2021
The AMD Ryzen Threadripper 5000 Desktop CPUs will also retain support on the TRX40 platform and will be the last generation of Threadripper CPUs for the SP3 socket before AMD moves to its brand new platform offering DDR5 and PCIe 5.0 support. According to Yuko Yoshida (formerly KittyCorgi), the HEDT lineup is expected to debut in August 2021 so we can expect an unveil by mid of 2021.
The AMD Ryzen Threadripper & Threadripper PRO lineups are currently the undisputed champions of the high-end desktop and workstation segment. Intel currently has no proper competition with their last release, the 10th Gen Core-X family launching all the way back in 2019. AMD has since just dominated the landscape and will continue to do so until Intel refocuses its HEDT and workstation efforts with Emerald Rapids HEDT CPUs which are expected for launch sometime between 2021 & 2022.
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谁でもが言いamdがwarholをもうすぐ出すって、これは何でしょうか?とても迷います
— Yuko Yoshida (@KittyYYuko) April 4, 2021
The leaker who has been very reliable with his past information also states that AMD will be releasing its next-generation Ryzen mainstream CPUs, codenamed Warhol, very soon but does not give an exact month. Warhol is supposed to be the first AMD Desktop CPU family to release on the brand new AM5 platform so things are looking really exciting for AMD in the coming months.
According to a report by German news site WinFuture, Microsoft’s new Surface 4 Laptop—set to debut this April—will offer AMD and Intel processor options side by side.
With 2020’s Surface Laptop 3, only the larger 15-inch model got an AMD option—the smaller 13.5-inch version was Intel-only. But this year with Surface Laptop 4, WinFuture says that Ryzen 5 4680U and Ryzen 7 4980U “Surface Edition” CPUs—lightly modified for Microsoft’s tight vertical integration—will be available in the smaller 13.5-inch Surface laptops as well.
Both Ryzen processors include Vega integrated graphics, and the Surface models are expected to include RAM up to 16GiB and SSD up to 512GB—though no word yet on whether the latter two will be socketed or soldered. These Ryzen models will be competing with Intel i5-1145G7 and i7-1185G7 Tiger Lake CPUs with Iris Plus 950 graphics; the Tiger Lake models are expected to offer up to 32GiB RAM and 1TB SSD.
We should stress that, so far, this is still rumor—this information is based solely on a spec sheet WinFuture says it received from an unnamed dealer. Assuming the rumors pan out, this is good news for anyone who wants a heavier multicore punch in a new Surface Laptop.