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HW News – NVIDIA Stands Accused, Nintendo Sues Again, MSI Claw Prices, & GPU Price Drops – Gamers Nexus

  1. HW News – NVIDIA Stands Accused, Nintendo Sues Again, MSI Claw Prices, & GPU Price Drops Gamers Nexus
  2. Former AMD Radeon boss says NVIDIA is the GPU cartel VideoCardz.com
  3. Nvidia’s AI customers are scared to be seen courting other AI chipmakers for fear of retaliatory shipment delays, says rival firm Tom’s Hardware
  4. Former AMD boss brands NVIDIA “the GPU cartel”: Rumors of delayed shipments and supply control listed as strongarm tactics Windows Central
  5. Former AMD GPU head accuses Nvidia of being a ‘GPU cartel’ in response to reports of retaliatory shipment delays Tom’s Hardware

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MSI unveils RTX 4070 SUPER GAMING X SLIM MLG series with iconic red design, 245W TDP out of the box – VideoCardz.com

  1. MSI unveils RTX 4070 SUPER GAMING X SLIM MLG series with iconic red design, 245W TDP out of the box VideoCardz.com
  2. Nvidia corrects mistake with one of its new RTX 40 Super GPUs — GeForce RTX 4070 Super has 48MB L2 after all, not 36MB Tom’s Hardware
  3. ROG RTX 4070 price shrinks in Amazon deal ahead of RTX 4070 Super release PC Guide – For The Latest PC Hardware & Tech News
  4. Custom GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER cards appear at retailers for up to $650 VideoCardz.com
  5. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER, 4070 Ti SUPER, 4080 SUPER GPUs Listed: $50-$100 US Premium For Custom Designs, FE Models at MSRP Wccftech

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The Best Black Friday Gaming PC Deal on Amazon: MSI Codex R RTX 4060 for $799 – IGN

  1. The Best Black Friday Gaming PC Deal on Amazon: MSI Codex R RTX 4060 for $799 IGN
  2. Here is my advice on how to ensure you get a good Black Friday deal, without spending too much or being caught out by a bad offer PC Gamer
  3. Build or Buy: Here’s how to get the best gaming PC deal during Black Friday Tom’s Hardware
  4. Save $500 on this Corsair RTX 4070 Gaming PC with this epic Black Friday deal PC Guide – For The Latest PC Hardware & Tech News
  5. This is the cheapest big brand RTX 4060 gaming PC we’ve found this Black Friday and it still doesn’t skrimp on storage PC Gamer
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The best MSI gaming laptop Black Friday deals from just $500 – Digital Trends

  1. The best MSI gaming laptop Black Friday deals from just $500 Digital Trends
  2. Quick! This incredible Black Friday gaming laptop deal cuts a massive $500 off an Nvidia RTX 4080 machine – but for only 17 hours TechRadar
  3. Grab a Gigabyte RTX 4060 gaming laptop with $300 off before Black Friday Dexerto
  4. Black Friday Came Early For Those That Want An RTX 3080 Ti Laptop, With The MSI Creator Z16P Going For Just $1,599.99 Wccftech
  5. Powerful and budget-friendly MSI gaming laptop’s price plunges below $600 before Black Friday PC Guide – For The Latest PC Hardware & Tech News
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Better Than Prime Day? Walmart Has an MSI Codex R RTX 4060 Gaming PC for Only $849 – IGN

  1. Better Than Prime Day? Walmart Has an MSI Codex R RTX 4060 Gaming PC for Only $849 IGN
  2. Fall Prime Day hasn’t even started but this RTX 4080 gaming laptop is already the best deal of the week PC Gamer
  3. Save over $600 on this powerhouse RTX 4090 CLX Set gaming PC perfect for MW3 beta PC Guide – For The Latest PC Hardware & Tech News
  4. The only CPU deal worth buying for budget gaming PCs Windows Central
  5. I test graphics cards for a living, and these are the Prime Day graphics card deals I’d look for — and one I’d avoid like the plague TechRadar
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MSI Creator M16 with Core i7-13620H CPU and RTX 4060 laptop GPU nets massive 24% price drop on Amazon – Notebookcheck.net

  1. MSI Creator M16 with Core i7-13620H CPU and RTX 4060 laptop GPU nets massive 24% price drop on Amazon Notebookcheck.net
  2. This RTX 4070 Ti PC deal smashes the price while getting you set for MW3 PC Guide – For The Latest PC Hardware & Tech News
  3. Lenovo Has a Legion 16″ RTX 4090 Gaming Laptop for Only $2699.99 During the Intel Gamer Days Sale IGN
  4. Save $250 with this epic Acer Nitro 5 RTX 4050 gaming laptop bundle deal Laptop Mag
  5. Eye-catching GPU deal sees EVGA RTX 3060 Ti price fall below $700 PC Guide – For The Latest PC Hardware & Tech News
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MSI launches GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM X CLASSIC

MSI SUPRIM CLASSIC with AD102 GPU and old RTX logo

This card is both new and old.

MSI has just revealed their new RTX 4090 card from the SUPRIM series. There is nothing particularly ‘supreme’ about this design, though. The Classic models implement older cooling design, the same design that was used for RTX 3090 Ti series.

With the introduction of RTX 40 cards, MSI showcased their updated SUPRIM coolers. The new card adopts Tri Frozr 3S cooler with Torx Fan 5.0. It also has a vapor chamber. The Classic model features Tri Frozr 2S and Torx 4.0 fans, but there is no vapor chamber here.

MSI RTX 4090 SUPRIM & SUPRIM CLASSIC, Source: MSI

The new SUPRIM is heavier (2.4 kg vs. 2.16 kg) and slightly thicker (7.8 cm vs. 7.1 cm), but it has nearly the same length and width. There should be no difference in terms of performance either, as both cards are clocked up to 2640 MHz (with MSI Center software overclocking). What MSI is not confirming is the max TDP for the Classic GPU, so there could be a limitation for overclocking if there are any.

MSI RTX 4090 SUPRIM & SUPRIM CLASSIC, Source: MSI

The backplate is of the old design, with now outdated GeForce RTX logo and even MSI’s own Gaming dragon which is no longer used on updated SUPRIM cards.

MSI RTX 4090 SUPRIM & SUPRIM CLASSIC, Source: MSI

Thus far, the SUPRIM CLASSIC has only been confirmed by MSI China website. It is unclear if this means that the card will be exclusive to this market, but this seems unlikely. The company also launched a SUPRIM non-X Classic model, which has lower clocks. The same clocks are offered by the 2022 Tri Frozr 3S based variant.

Source: MSI via @harukaze5719





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MSI Afterburner software without MSI support, “project is probably dead”

MSI Afterburner project faces difficult times

Alexey “Unwinder” Nicolaychuk confirmed that Afterburner project could be dead. 

The most popular overclocking tool for modern graphics cards is facing licensing problems due to ongoing war in Ukraine. Due to sanctions, companies such as MSI are unable to perform their obligations under the agreement signed with the developer. Alexey, who is based in Russia is now continuing the project without MSI’s support.

The developer confirmed that the project has been dead for over 11 months now. Current political situation, as he explains, is preventing MSI from performing their obligations. The project is now only supported by Alexey during his spare time.

Alexey on MSI Afterburner support, Source: Guru3D

MSI Afterburner is one of the most popular tools for discrete GPU overclocking. The software is a spiritual successor to RivaTuner softare, which has been used for GPU overclocking many years ago. Users may find it problematic to find an alternative that supports all many GPU vendors natively. Most brands now include their own monitoring and simple overclocking software that also controls the GPU functionality such as lighting control or fan speeds. MSI also has such tool called MSI Center.

What is worth mentioning is that MSI is still officially listing the software for newly released GPUs, including RTX 4070 Ti. The popularity of the software means that scammers are trying to take advantage of it by releasing cloned apps with malware. MSI is well aware of this fact and continues to mention the official source for the software is still MSI’s own website. The following tweet was posted in November, so many months after not fulfilling Afterburner licensing obligations:

MSI mentioning Afterburner, Source: MSI

The only good news is that RTSS (RivaTuner Statistic Server) is not an MSI tool, therefore it is not affected by sanctions. This statistics and overlay software has full support from Alexey and will continue to be supported as it was. That said, the 3rd party software that uses RTSS should not be impacted.

Alexey confirms that he will continue to support the Afterburner project during his free time, but this is not the full support that many of us would prefer. What is important to note is that the sanctions may not be limited to financial compensation but also access to prerelease hardware, essentially stagnating the development process or preventing it altogether.

Source: Guru3D Forums



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MSI MPG X670E Carbon WiFi Motherboard Listed Online For Over 550 Euros, PRO X670-P WiFi For Over 350 Euros

It’s not just the AMD Ryzen 7000 “Zen 4” CPUs that are appearing on online listings but MSI’s X670 motherboards have also been listed by various Italian retailers.

MSI’s MPG X670E Carbon WiFi & Pro X670-P WiFi Motherboards Listed By Italian Retailers

There are various Italian retailers that have listed the two motherboards as discovered by resident Twitter Leaker, Momomo_US. Three Italian retailers which include Eurotronic, TekWorld & City Web Shop have the motherboards listed but do keep in mind that once again, these are preliminary lists with early prices which do not reflect the final MSRPs. The prices also include a +22% VAT for Italian market regions so that’s also accounted for.

With that said, the MSI MPG X670E Carbon WiFi being a high-end offering starts at 562.19 Euros & goes all the way up to 640.15 Euros while the Pro X670-P WiFi motherboard starts at 374.35 Euros and goes all the way up to 416.50 Euros. Following is the full pricing list along with retailer-specific links:

These are certainly much higher prices than the X570 predecessors and also more expensive than the Z690 offerings of the same tier. Hopefully, we will be getting decent prices at launch but the 22 percent VAT still applies in the European region.

MSI X670 Motherboard “Preliminary” Prices (Credits: Harukaze5719)

Motherboard Name With +22% VAT W/O VAT Euros to USD (W/O VAT)
MPG X670E Carbon WiFi 562.19 Euros 460.81 Euros $474.64 USD
MPG X670E Carbon WiFi 625.50 Euros 512.70 Euros $528.09 USD
MPG X670E Carbon WiFi 640.15 Euros 524.71 Euros $540.45 USD
PRO X670-P WiFI 374.35 Euros 306.84 Euros $316.05 USD
PRO X670-P WiFI 416.50 Euros 341.39 Euros $351.64 USD
PRO X670-P WiFI 426.27 Euros 349.40 Euros $359.88 USD

MSI MPG X670E Carbon WIFI Motherboard – An All-Rounder With High-End I/O

MSI has also given the X670E treatment to its next CARBON WIFI motherboard. This means we will be getting the same PCIe Gen 5 support for storage and graphics on this motherboard too. Listed features include:

  • Extended Heatsink with heat-pipe
  • 18+2 phases / 90A power stages
  • Lightning Gen 5 slot & M.2 support
  • Screwless M.2 Shield Frozr
  • Onboard 2.5G LAN & WIFI 6E
  • USB Type-C supports up to DP 2.0

MSI PRO X670-P WIFI – Entry Into The X670 Segment With Quality Features!

Finally, we have the MSI PRO X670-P WIFI which combines stable functionality with high-quality assembly. Now one thing that MSI has told is that the X670E class motherboards will come with a 10-layer PCB design while the X670 motherboards will come with up to 8-layer PCBs. We know that the X670E class motherboards need those increased server-quality PCB layers to maintain the Gen 5.0 signal integrity for both discrete GPUs and storage. Since the X670 motherboard doesn’t have to offer both dGPU and M.2 Gen 5 support, they can do away with 8-layers which is still a high-end PCB design. The main features of the motherboard include:

  • Extended Heatsink Design
  • 14+2 phases / 80A SPS stages
  • Lightning Gen 5 M.2 support
  • 1x Double-side M.2 Shield Frozr
  • Onboard 2.5G LAN & WIFI 6E
  • USB Type-C supports up to DP 2.0

MSI X670E & X670 Motherboard Specs

Motherboard Name MSI MEG X670E GODLIKE MSI MEG X670E ACE MSI MPG X670E Carbon MSI PRO X670E-P WiFi
Chipset X670E X670E X670E X670E
Form Factor E-ATX E-ATX ATX ATX
PCB Color Black Black Black Black
PCB Layers 10 Layer 10 Layer 8 Layer 8 Layer
Motherboard Color Black + White + Gold Black + Gold Black Black + White
VRM Design 24+2+1 (105A) 22+2+1 (90A) 18+2+1 (90A) 14+2+1 (80A)
VRM Heatsink Wavy Fin / Cross heat-pipe / MOSFET backplate Stacked Fin Array / Direct Touch Heat Pipe / MOSFET Baseplate Extended Heatsink with Heatpipe Extended Heatsink
PWM Controller TBD TBD TBD TBD
Power Stages TBD TBD TBD TBD
Power Delivery (CPU) 8+8 8+8 8+8 8+8
Memory DIMMs 4 DDR5 DIMM 4 DDR5 DIMM 4 DDR5 DIMM 4 DDR5 DIMM
Memory Support DDR5-5600 (JEDEC)
DDR5-**** (EXPO)
DDR5-5600 (JEDEC)
DDR5-**** (EXPO)
DDR5-5600 (JEDEC)
DDR5-**** (EXPO)
DDR5-5600 (JEDEC)
DDR5-**** (EXPO)
Memory Capacity 128 GB (Max) 128 GB (Max) 128 GB (Max) 128 GB (Max)
PCIe Gen 5.0 Slots 3 (x8/x4/x4) 3 (x8/x4/x4) 2 (x16/x8) 0
PCIe Gen 4.0/3.0 Slots 1 (x16) 0 1 (x16) 3 (x8/x4/x4) / 1 (x1)
M.2 Gen 5.0 Slots 1 1 2 1
M.2 Gen 4.0 Slots 3 3 2 3
M.2 Heatsinks M.2 Shield Frozr Heatsinks M.2 Shield Frozr Heatsinks M.2 Shield Frozr Heatsinks M.2 Shield Frozr Heatsinks
SATA III Ports 8 6 6 6
WiFi Capabilities WiFi 6E WiFi 6E WiFi 6E WiFi 6E
LAN Capabilities 1 x 10 GbE (Marvell AQtion)
1 x 2.5 GbE (Intel I225V)
1 x 10 GbE (Marvell AQtion) 1 x 2.5 GbE (Realtek 8125B) 1 x 2.5 GbE (Realtek 8125B)
USB 4.0 Ports 0 0 0 0
USB 3.2 Ports 15 17 13 13
USB 3.1/3.0/2.0 Ports 4 4 6 4
RGB Sync Software MSI Mystic Light MSI Mystic Light MSI Mystic Light MSI Mystic Light
Price TBD TBD TBD TBD

For the full details on all the AMD X670E & X670 motherboards, you can check out our full features and specifications roundup of all the AM5 motherboards that have been revealed so far over here.



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MSI GS77 Stealth review: don’t let the name fool you

Don’t let the name fool you — there is nothing stealthy about this device.

The MSI GS77 Stealth has long been the portable option among MSI’s gaming elite, and while that fact remained dubiously true with last year’s 5.4-pound GS76 Stealth, this year’s 0.79-inch-thick, 6.17-pound GS77 has effectively launched that idea into the sun. This laptop is big, thick, and bulky, and while it lacks the light strips and LED grids that other showy gaming laptops boast, its RGB keyboard still makes very clear that it’s for gaming above all else.

This isn’t necessarily a huge knock against the device — the GS76 was quite light for what it was, and the GS77 has brought the Stealth series back in line with the rest of the 17-inch market. It now weighs a bit more than Razer’s Blade 17 and Asus’ Zephyrus S17. And it’s almost the same weight as MSI’s more powerful GE76 Raider.

One can see why MSI may have wanted to go bigger because the chips inside have been frying just about every chassis they touch this year. The model we were sent includes a 12th Gen Core i7-12900H — one of the most powerful mobile chips in Intel’s history — paired with Nvidia’s RTX 3070 Ti, 32GB of RAM, and 1TB of storage, all powering a 240Hz QHD screen.

But the new girth takes away a major advantage that the GS77 used to have over these models: the GS77 Stealth appears to have lost some of what made it desirable as a “portable” buy. The keyboard is on the flat side, the touchpad is uncomfortably stiff, the battery life isn’t good, and the device is too big and too heavy to reliably bring anywhere. What we’re left with is a computer that asks many of the same compromises as the most powerful gaming laptops on the market without bringing the same exceptional frame rates.

For more information on our scoring, see how we rate.

The primary advantage the Stealth has now is its price. My test unit is currently listed for $2,899. To get this GPU in the GE76 Raider (which has an even beefier Core i9 as well as a fancier design) would be $100 more, while a QHD Razer Blade 17 with the 3070 Ti would be a whole $3,399.99. I’ve also been able to find GS77 models for as low as $1,799 (for a 144Hz 1080p screen, an RTX 3060, and 16GB of RAM), while the cheapest Blade on Razer’s site is $2,799 and the 12th Gen Raider starts at $2,299. Still, $2,899 is hardly a budget price, and it’s worth knowing what compromises you’re making for that lower cost.

The lid is fairly fingerprint-free.

So is much of the keyboard deck.

First, the aspect of the GS77 that’s an unquestionable improvement over last year: build quality. I’ve had gripes about MSI’s chassis in the past, but the GS77’s base and lid are both sturdy and unyielding. The trackpad collected some fingerprints fairly easily, but the rest of the chassis wasn’t too much of a magnet for them. It’s a nice-looking computer, and it didn’t pick up any scratches or dents after being battered around in a suitcase for a few days.

Other perks of previous models remain. There’s a good range of ports including two USB-C, two USB-A, a headphone jack, HDMI, ethernet, and an SD card reader. (The SD reader is weirdly slower than it was last year, however, as other reviewers have noted.) The QHD display does make games look great. There are a whopping six speakers inside, and while they don’t deliver the best audio on the 17-inch market, my games still sounded pretty good. I had no trouble with the microphones, which support AI noise cancellation, and the webcam has a physical shutter switch on the side for some peace of mind.

But the touchpad’s another story.

That said, I really can’t see myself using this device as a daily driver for two important reasons: the keyboard and touchpad. The keyboard has pretty lighting, but it is quite thin to type on, with more of a spongy than a clicky feel. And while there is a number pad, the keys are all a bit cramped as a result. The arrow keys, in particular, feel small.

And the touchpad is where I really had trouble. It’s large but was as difficult of a click as I’ve ever experienced on a touchpad. (And it’s quite loud as well.) I felt like I really had to thunk my finger down to get a click registered. I was close to plugging in a mouse (something I don’t do when I’m testing for productivity use cases, as a general policy) because of how much I hated navigating with it. These aren’t unheard-of compromises when it comes to 17-inch gaming laptops, but they do underscore how little I’d recommend this to double as a daily driver.

The dragon’s still there, but it’s subdued.

When it comes to frame rates, how do these specs stack up? With all sliders maxed out, Red Dead Redemption 2 ran at an average of 60 frames per second at native resolution (technically 59.3, but we can call it 60). That jumped up to 65 at 1080p. On Shadow of the Tomb Raider in 1080p, we saw an average of 83 frames per second with ray tracing on Ultra (its maximum setting) and 121 with the feature off. At native resolution, these translated to 58 frames per second (another number we can loosely call 60) and 86, respectively. All in all, more than playable.

The GS77 put up an absurd 400 frames per second on the CPU-heavy CS:GO in 1080p and a still quite high 286 at native 1440p. The only title that gave the game any trouble was Cyberpunk 2077, which — at native resolution, at maximum settings, with ray tracing cranked up to “Psycho” — ran at 19 frames per second (but achieved 33 at those settings in 1080p).

All in all, these are certainly an improvement over the results from last year’s model, and they show that you shouldn’t have trouble running most modern games at QHD resolution, though they’re below what you can get out of pricier Core i9 and RTX 3080 machines. There’s a disappointing omission, though: the GS77 doesn’t support MUX. This component (which both the Raider and the Blade do have) allows laptops to support adaptive features like G-Sync and can also lead to a substantial performance difference. It’s an odd thing to exclude at this price point and something I’d imagine many folks who are willing to pay $2,900 won’t be keen to compromise on.

See that little switch? That’s for the webcam.

When it comes to other workloads, the Stealth was more competitive. It completed our five-minute, 33-second 4K Adobe Premiere Pro video export test in two minutes and 15 seconds. The Raider beat this time, clocking in at one minute and 56 seconds, but it’s one of very few laptops that has ever done so. Last year’s 3070 GS76 was 12 seconds slower. (These aren’t meant to be apples-to-apples comparisons, as different versions of Premiere can change over time; they’re more meant to give you an idea of how long an export might take.)

The GS77 also beat the GS76, as well as the Blade and other creative workstations like the Gigabyte Aero 16, on the Puget Systems benchmark for Premiere Pro, which tests live playback and export performance at 4K and 8K. (It did lose to the Raider by a lot). This isn’t a laptop I’d recommend people use for office workloads, so the GS77’s good performance here isn’t the biggest point in its favor.

Two USB-C and an SD on the right.

The charging port, HDMI, and ethernet are in the back.

MSI’s software is definitely not as glitchy as it has been in the past few years, which is an encouraging sign. I had no problem adjusting fan profiles and such with the preinstalled programs. I did run into one glitch where the screen started turning off when I tried to run games (a problem on a gaming laptop). MSI sent me a replacement unit, which didn’t exhibit that problem. Still, it’s not the sort of thing we love to see on $2,900 products.

And then we get to what I see as the biggest compromise here: the battery life. I was only averaging about two hours and 16 minutes of continuous use on this thing, with some trials even lasting under two hours. That’s got to be close to the worst battery run I’ve ever gotten out of a gaming laptop. While it’s generally understood that cheaper laptops will have less powerful chips in them, having to give up battery life in addition to that power (the Raider lasted me about two hours longer with the same workload) is a tough pill to swallow.

If you’re looking purely at frame rates on paper, this laptop is a fine buy. It can run all kinds of games at QHD resolution without burning your basement down.

But the Stealth moniker, and the way the line has historically been positioned, might imply to some people that this device is a good pick for more than just gaming. It’s not; MSI’s changes to the Stealth line have made it more powerful at the expense of other features that made it, well Stealthy. It’s too big and heavy to be consistently carrying around in a briefcase or backpack, the battery life isn’t usable for daily work away from an outlet, and the keyboard and touchpad just wouldn’t be my choice to use every day. This is no longer really a portable alternative to the Raider. It’s just a more affordable version of the Raider.

Which is fine, if that’s what you’re after. But with the Raider delivering more powerful specs, better battery life, more RGB, and an MUX switch for a couple hundred dollars more, I think it delivers an all-around better experience that will be worth the money for people shopping in this range.

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