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Jonathan Kuminga is emerging into a defensive force for the Warriors

SAN FRANCISCO — The Hornets melted away the Warriors’ 18-point second-half lead completely. It was tied at 101 with just over three minutes left. Charlotte had possession. The ball found its way to PJ Washington in the corner.

Washington is a skilled big. He launches 3s and hits them at a capable clip, but doesn’t have too explosive a first step. He wants space and, in this instance, tried to jab step Jonathan Kuminga, his defender, away a couple of times to get it.

But Kuminga wasn’t giving him room to breathe. He’s quicker laterally than Washington and increasingly aggressive, buying into his role as one of the Warriors’ go-to individual defenders. As Washington sent those few soft jab steps at him, Kuminga only nudged closer and grew more invasive. Washington left the ball exposed. Kuminga ripped it away.

That steal was among the most popular postgame topics after the Warriors closed out a needed 110-105 win. The quotes that emerged on Kuminga’s defense from two of the loudest and most influential voices in the room raise an eyebrow.

“He looked like Andre Iguodala on that play,” head coach Steve Kerr said. “That’s an Andre-type play. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Andre’s been mentoring him throughout the season and last year.”

“That was will,” Draymond Green said. “That was ‘I want the ball more than you.’ That was ‘Our backs are against the wall. We’ve lost the lead. Let me go make a play myself.’ So he took the ball. He goes and gets a dunk. He goes and snatches a rebound in traffic. He made every play down the stretch. I think it all started with that play with PJ Washington taking the ball. He manhandled him.”

Kuminga played the entire fourth quarter. He wouldn’t have if Andrew Wiggins had been available. But Wiggins’ extended absence has cracked the door wider for Kuminga and he has taken a firmer grip on a rotation spot in the last couple of weeks because of his point-of-attack defense.

“We went with him for his defense,” Kerr said. “He’s playing really well defensively and he was guarding LaMelo (Ball).”

“At the moment — fourth quarter,” Kuminga admitted, “I don’t usually get to be in the game.”

Kuminga found a crack of space for two huge cutting dunks in the final minutes. He was 6-for-6 shooting. He also had a floater against Gordon Hayward in isolation with under 90 seconds left to give the Warriors a five-point lead. You can watch the offensive clips here. After the Hornets called timeout, Green started shoving Kuminga in celebration.

But Green specifically mentioned the big rebound. The Warriors are a smaller team that is in desperate need of an injection of controlled athleticism. Kuminga is in the top percentile of NBA athletes and it’s beginning to make an impact in positive ways — like the aforementioned defensive rebound, seen below, where he skies over Mason Plumlee to secure an important possession with three minutes left.

Ball went 7 of 25 shooting. Six of those misses came in a dreadful fourth quarter. The last of those sealed the Charlotte loss. It came after a Klay Thompson missed free throw, keeping the Warriors up five. Ball tried to push it into the frontcourt with 10 seconds left to get a quick score. But he was being hounded full court by Kuminga, who spent much of the night — and this past month — hounding ballhandlers.

Here’s that one example.

This is a vital development for a Warriors team that lost one of the NBA’s best point-of-attack defenders this summer. Gary Payton II, who led the NBA in steals per 36 minutes, left a void when he went to Portland. Donte DiVincenzo and Moses Moody have their strengths, but neither can hawk like Payton can.

Kuminga isn’t as seasoned, but his physical skills are off the charts and, after sinking out of the rotation early in the season, seems to be embracing his bench role as a defense-obsessed pest on the ball.

“He f—ing locks up now,” Green said. “I think it’s very impressive to see. Not that you never thought he was capable, but to see the maturity and buying into a role. Like, ‘Oh, that’s my role, that’s what I need to do. I’m going to go do that better than anyone.’ We’ve seen his impact over the last few weeks. He’s hawking every point guard he gets on. … As a competitor, you lose your spot in the rotation, what are you going to do to get it back? Some sulk. Most sulk. Then some go and take it back. That’s what he’s done.”

Green’s words shouldn’t land lightly. When speaking about defense, he doesn’t deliver these types of platitudes often. These were meaningful statements about a second-year wing he clearly believes has the potential to be an elite defender.

“It’s been a beautiful thing to watch,” Green said. “It’s his (improved) understanding on that side of the ball. He’s in the right spot more often than not now. I think his growth in that area has been absolutely amazing. Quite frankly, it’s been much needed for us. Because we haven’t guarded dribble penetration well. We haven’t been really good at the point of attack all year. He’s changing that for us.”

Kuminga is disruptive on the ball and dangerous when locked into an individual assignment. But for him to really emerge and continue to close key games for the Warriors, he needs to improve within the team concept still, right? That question was posed to Green.

“I don’t play defense in the team concept,” Green said. “I know most people think I do, but I don’t. When you’re good enough, the team concepts adapt around you. That’s what he’s starting to show. We may not want him to pick up as high as he picks up all the time. But if you’re wreaking havoc and it’s bettering us and it’s worsening the opponent’s offense, who is going to say stop? When you’re good enough and you’re capable, the team concepts adapt around you.”

That’s Green, one of the greatest defenders of a generation, roping himself into a defensive conversation about Kuminga.

“(Other) guys are learning,” Green continued. “You’ll even hear now (the coaches will) say, ‘Hey, we’re doing this on a screen.’ Then Loon will say, ‘Hey, I’m not doing that with JK. He’s going to be too into the ball and I can’t get a good red (coverage). So I’m just going to into a coverage with JK (that’s different).’ That’s adapting to him. What he’s doing is good enough for me to adapt as opposed to saying, ‘No, JK, I really need you to get into this red (coverage).’ No. He’s so good at that thing that we’re going to adapt. Understanding team concepts is extremely important. He’s learning. He’s helping. He’s doing the things that need to be done on that side. But when you’re sh0wing the skill set that he has on that side of the ball, you’d be a fool to say, ‘Hey, we need you to go do this.’”

This seems like a notable development.

(Photo of  Jonathan Kuminga of the Warriors scoring over Gordon Hayward of the Hornets: Thearon W. Henderson / Getty Images)



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How the Warriors outsmarted and upset the Grizzlies on Christmas Day

SAN FRANCISCO — Maybe the biggest play of the Warriors’ short-handed 123-109 Christmas win over the Grizzlies came while half the crowd was still returning from the concourse. It was the first possession of the second half. Jaren Jackson Jr. was guarding Draymond Green, giving Green a green light to go foul hunting.

The Warriors controlled the first half, leading by as many as 16 points. But a 6-0 Tyus Jones run in the final 27 seconds cut the Memphis deficit to five. The Grizzlies had momentum coming out of the locker room, but they also had an elite rim-protecting center who failed to stay on the floor in the first half because of three quick fouls. To clamp the Warriors, they needed Jackson to protect against a fourth whistle.

Nobody knew this better than Green, a hoops genius who gets particularly locked in during big matchups. He knew Jackson’s foul total, importance to the Grizzlies and his maddening tendency to reach in moments when he shouldn’t. So, eight seconds into the half, Green came strolling up for a typical dribble handoff with Donte DiVincenzo, saw Jackson’s long arm reaching into nearby airspace and gave himself a quick audible into a fake DHO dive, flailing into Jackson’s arm.

Whistle. Green got what he was looking for and immediately held up four fingers toward the Memphis bench, alerting the Grizzlies that it was already time to sub Jackson out of the game. Here’s the clip.

The NBA scheduled this matchup for one of its marquee Christmas matchups in part because of the mutual disdain neither side can hide. It’s healthy interplay between a rising, confident young contender obsessed with knocking the established champ off the block.

Memphis’ core is younger, longer and bouncier and has had games when they’ve physically overwhelmed the older, slower Warriors. But just like the totality of that six-game second-round series win seven months ago, the Warriors seem to outlast the Grizzlies with their brain, beating them in the marginal ways that have always made champions champions. Green’s baiting of a Jackson foul is a small example in a game filled with them.

“They’re talented,” Klay Thompson said. “We’re talented. We’re seasoned.”

This profiled as a terrible time for the Warriors to get a motivated Grizzlies team, finally healthy after Desmond Bane’s recent return. Steph Curry will miss at least a couple of more weeks and Andrew Wiggins sat his 10th straight game, nursing a groin injury that coach Steve Kerr acknowledged has lingered longer than expected.

But — easier said in retrospect — it may actually prove to be the perfect time for the Warriors to have drawn the Grizzlies. They came wobbling back home after a 1-5 trip that dropped them to 15-18 on the season, and they needed a locked-in performance to jump-start a crucial eight-game homestand as they attempt to tread water long enough for Curry’s return.

Green, listed as questionable with foot soreness, physically looked fine and brought his typical focus to a big stage. Conducting so much of the action, he had 13 rebounds, 13 assists and his typical technical. Thompson didn’t shoot it well, but he was physical defensively and spent the night yapping at the Grizzlies, punctuated by the memorable taunt of a stumbling Dillon Brooks after Thompson buried a jumper to basically seal the win.

“Just some good old-fashion trash talk,” Thompson said. “I didn’t think it warranted a technical, but I forgot about the taunting rule.”

Jordan Poole played the night’s most important role. To beat Memphis’ defensive length and activity, you need a shot creator and maker. Without Curry and Wiggins, the Warriors are basically left with Poole, who was coming off a rough end to the recent road trip.

Poole scored 17 points in the first quarter, fighting through Brooks’ physicality, over Jackson’s length and backdoor behind the Grizzlies’ overplay scheme to score on a variety of stepback 3s, midrangers and floaters. He had 32 points in 29 minutes by early in the fourth quarter. But that’s also when he stared down official Marc Davis after a no-call and was hit with a second technical, leading to an automatic ejection. It was Poole’s eighth technical of the season.

“He knows that he can’t get a second one,” Kerr said. “He’s still a young player. Jordan was fantastic tonight. We needed his offensive firepower. The great thing with Jordan is I still think he has a level or two to go to really get to the point where he’s reaching his ceiling. That involved playing with poise — whether it’s avoiding the referees or taking care of the ball. But he’s doing a great job competing and helping us stay afloat.”

Bane hit the free throw after Poole’s ejection, trimming the Warriors’ lead to 16 with 9:20 left. Absent of context, that margin seems comfortable, but it felt vulnerable without Curry, Wiggins and Poole given the lack of bench punch the Warriors have shown most of the season.

But that’s what was different and encouraging about this game for them. The focused veterans led, but the young group behind them followed. Kerr went to a lineup that included Jonathan Kuminga, Moses Moody and James Wiseman late in the first quarter and, over a five-minute stretch, the Warriors actually bumped the lead up two points against one of the league’s deepest teams.

Kerr peppered them into the rotation again in the second half, and all three lottery picks gave productive minutes. Moody scored 10 points and hit a big fourth-quarter 3 the possession after the Poole ejection. He was a plus-2. Kuminga muscled his way to eight free throws. He was a plus-21. Wiseman didn’t even attempt a shot in his eight minutes, but he probably delivered the best defensive stretch of his early career.

After Wiseman’s first-half run, Kerr came over to hype him up and even let him know of his lone negative: “The foul was bulls—.”

“He was great defensively,” Kerr said of Wiseman. “Great. Patrolling the paint. Staying in between the ball and the basket but still being able to cover the roll man.”

Kerr, in an extended interview in New York last week, went into greater detail on Wiseman’s (and Kuminga’s and Moody’s) development. You can read that here.

But these are the types of improved possessions Kerr is referring to. In a 10-second clip, he bottles up multiple pick-and-roll actions and comes weakside to contest a shot.

Or how about this for a heartening sequence for the Warriors’ front office and coaching staff? Kuminga opens on Ja Morant. The Grizzlies screen him off to get Morant attacking Wiseman. Kuminga recognizes it and gets back in the play in time to stop Morant’s baseline drive. Wiseman recognizes and falls back into position to still protect the rim. Morant dribbles a pass out of bounds.

Donte DiVincenzo hit two huge first-quarter 3s, had five total and scored 19 points, continuing his emergence. Anthony Lamb made three first-half 3s. Ty Jerome had what Kerr called the biggest sequence of the night, making three straight jumpers in a 65-second span to give the Warriors needed separation. They’re getting useful production from both of their two-way contract players.

It all came together for a second statement win in their past two home games. The Warriors are 16-18, but they beat the Celtics pretty convincingly without Wiggins and just walloped the Grizzlies without Curry and Wiggins, taunting them the entire way. Those were their two biggest threats in the playoffs a season ago. Neither rival, in advantageous scenarios, has yet to solve them.

“I just challenged the guys to build on it,” Kerr said. “We’ve got seven straight home games coming up. We’ve been great at home, but we haven’t really built a lot of momentum this year. It’s kind of been stops and starts. So it feels like it’s time to turn it up.”

(Photo of Draymond Green driving against Jaren Jackson Jr.: Darren Yamashita / USA Today)



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Hollinger’s Showcase notebook: Suns’ $4 billion sale renews NBA expansion buzz

LAS VEGAS — Usually the G League Winter Showcase marks a beginning point for a big chunk of the NBA’s trade conversations. Even in our networked/texting/Zooming world, face time matters. Nearly every exec in the league spends at least a day here hobnobbing.

Front office members and staffers see each other at the two courts where the event is held, and perhaps at the bar at the end of a long day, too, since virtually everyone is in the same hotel. Relaxed without the prying eyes of fans around, they trade bits of information and crop up conversations. Next thing you know, there’s a three-team, eight-player deal on the table. It still takes the urgency of the trade deadline in February to actually get these conversations to the finish line, but this week is often the catalyst.

This year has felt … different. The overarching theme is that things seemed quieter than usual.

“Quiet” isn’t the same thing as “dead,” of course, and flickers of trade market life could be detected if one looked closely enough. Teams spent the week kicking the tires on Chicago’s situation. Phoenix’s exiled Jae Crowder remains a target for several contenders. Oh, and have you heard Atlanta’s John Collins is available?

Nonetheless, the cold math remains: It’s tough to have buyers without any sellers, and there just aren’t many sellers right now. That may change as we get closer to the trade deadline and more teams see their preseason hopes collide with the realities of their rosters. Right now, however, the potentially interesting sellers are either straddling .500 or, in a few cases, clinging resolutely to the delusion that they can get there. Instead of actual trade talks, we’re left speculating about guys who might, maybe, at some point, want to be traded. Fun times.

Instead, it was a different transaction that got everyone’s attention this week.

Four billion dollars? Now that got people talking. That was the valuation Mat Ishbia agreed to this week in purchasing a controlling stake of the Phoenix Suns and the WNBA’s Phoenix Mercury.

It’s one thing when the LA Clippers go for billions, but Phoenix? A growing but transplant-heavy market, with a tired arena and lots of pro and college sports competition? That’s news. In October, Forbes rated the Suns the 13th-most valuable NBA property, at a value of $2.7 billion. Ishbia went much higher than that.

The sale of the Suns and Mercury should have a big impact on NBA business in two areas. First of all, it could precipitate moves in other markets. The working presumption by many insiders is that we would see a raft of sales after the new collective bargaining agreement and next TV deal are finalized, since secure labor peace and a potential TV money bonanza would likely increase valuations. (As would expansion fees that might happen concurrently, but more on that below.)

However, economists who believe in efficient market theory would tell you this knowledge should already be baked into bidders’ valuations. The Suns’ sale seems to be a perfect example. At first glance, it seems like a wild overvaluation, but it makes a lot more sense if one is looking at the post-2026 market.

So the question becomes: What other owners might realize that they don’t need to wait and can cash out right away? Certainly, Portland comes to mind. There may be other reasons for Paul Allen’s estate to wait a while longer, but getting a price in the $3 billion to $4 billion range right now could easily trump them.

Similarly, Michael Jordan in Charlotte has been whispered about for ages as a potential seller. Though the Hornets haven’t exactly set the league afire, he bought the team for relative peanuts in 2010 (a reported net price of $175 million) and would make a mint on a sale, perhaps 10 times what he paid. New Orleans is another franchise that many insiders mention as a sale candidate, although the search for a local buyer could stymie a transaction. Those are the known knowns, in Rumsfeld-speak.

But what about the known unknowns? Are there other owners who weren’t really thinking about selling a week ago, but now might suddenly be tempted if they can get a number like $4 billion?

And whither the T’wolves? The bizarre multi-installment sale from Glen Taylor to Alex Rodriguez and Marc Lore is still creaking along toward its Dec. 31, 2023 completion date, but should anything go amiss, Taylor could seemingly make a lot more money from another buyer. Needless to say, if the new dudes so much as misplace a comma in a document, Taylor is massively incentivized to nuke the deal and start over. The valuation on that Timberwolves sale was $1.6 billion, so Taylor might make an extra billion if the team went back on the market! Fortunately, this is the Minnesota Timberwolves, so nothing crazy like that could possibly happen.

However, even that pales in comparison to the other important piece of the Suns’ sale news: what it means for expansion.


The chances of the NBA returning to Seattle keep growing. (Joe Nicholson / USA Today)

Basically, it makes it seem almost inevitable that we’ll have two new teams within the next half decade. (Not breaking any news here, but every single person I asked thinks those teams will be in Seattle and Las Vegas. My personal crusade for Bali and Kauai appears to have gained little traction.)

If you want to understand why the Phoenix sale is so important to this, do the math. The biggest obstacle to expanding from 30 teams to 32 is not a lack of available markets in which to sell tickets or pipe in local TV broadcasts. It’s because they dilute the national TV money.

The league’s national TV deal has become an increasingly large portion of teams’ budgets, and that amount is only expected to rise in the next TV deal. Adding two new franchises dilutes each one’s share of that piece by roughly 1/16, and does so in perpetuity. That would be fine if adding teams grew the TV pie proportionately, but it doesn’t, because the NBA already has more games than ESPN and TNT can possibly air. Sure, they might get slightly higher ratings in Seattle and Las Vegas than many other cities, but that’s a barely noticeable blip on a national level.

The only thing offsetting the loss of national TV money is the expansion fee, which is shared by the 30 current owners. That fee, alas, is only paid once, and not year after year, and thus needs to be many multiples of the lost annual TV revenue for the league’s owners to come out ahead — and thus, presumably, vote in favor of expansion. This is why some of my spies were pouring cold water on expansion speculation: The financial math wasn’t guaranteed to pencil out for the 30 owners.

The exact break-even point is a complex calculation based on projections of future TV revenues, future interest rates and investment returns, an estimate of the expansion fee and what economists call the discount rate for the time value of money, accounting for the fact you’d rather have your money today than 10 years from now.

Instead, let me make some grossly simplifying assumptions to walk you through the exercise. I have an economics degree and I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. This should go great.

The last TV deal was $24 billion over nine years. Let’s say the next one is $75 billion over nine years, which some have estimated.

Now, for some math. (Sorry). Divide by 30 and you have each team’s share of that package ($2.5 billion). Divide that number by nine and you have each team’s annual share ($277 million). That share, in turn, is diluted 1/16 by expansion. The dilution, then, is worth about $17.3 million annually. If an owner’s financial mandarins end up with a 10 percent annual discount on future revenues (this is a quasi-reasonable ballpark), they will want the expansion fee to be at least 10 times the diluted revenue to justify a yes vote.

And that is why an expansion fee in the $4 billion to $5 billion range is so important. It’s so much easier to pencil out the owners coming out ahead than if the fee were, say, in the $3 billion to $3.5 billion range.

Which, in turn, is much easier to imagine happening if an existing franchise just sold for $4 billion. Most observers I spoke with see a Vegas team as being of similar or slightly greater value than Phoenix, and a Seattle team as being worth considerably more. Suppose, for argument’s sake, it was $4 billion for Vegas and $5 billion for Seattle. That’s an instant $300 million windfall for every owner … and a roughly 17x ratio to the diluted TV money.

Yes, my math here involves sweeping assumptions and simplifications. Nonetheless, let’s exit the financial weeds here and conclude with the big-picture takeaway from this exercise. If the expansion fees were $3 billion, it would seem like a close call for the league’s owners to approve it.

If it’s at $4 billion? It’s a no-brainer.



The Knicks’ punishment for tampering with Jalen Brunson was as tame, as expected. (Brad Penner / USA Today)

Some other thoughts from the Showcase:

That’ll show ‘em, huh?

The other hot topic in league circles was the collective eye roll at the NBA’s decision to penalize the Knicks a 2025 second-round pick for tampering in signing Jalen Brunson. As many have already noted, giving up a second-rounder to sign a max-level free agent is a trade every team in the league would make in a nanosecond. Once you’re dealing with All-Stars and max players, there is no amount of second-round picks the league could penalize a team to disincentivize them.

On the flip side, league personnel I talked to recognized the impossibility of the league’s situation. The underlying issue isn’t that the Knicks (or Sixers, for that matter) cheated the letter of the rule this summer, but that the current rules on free agency are virtually unenforceable. There is only one rule most execs really care about: Tampering with a player whose team is still playing games remains an absolutely uncrossable red line, one that should be punished with a decades-long banishment to a dank, windowless cell, containing only a bed made of carpet from the visiting locker room in Oracle Arena and a big screen TV showing games from the 1998-99 lockout year.

As for jumping the July 1 deadline on contacting free agents by a few hours (or days, or weeks) …. whatevs. There are rules written on paper about audits and commandeering phones and whatnot, but nobody wants to actually do that.

In reality, the league’s de facto policy is “just don’t embarrass us.” Which is hard to write about, because we’ve become part of the problem.

News flash: Teams have been jumping the gun on free agency for years and years and years. The news just didn’t get out nearly as fast in the past. It worked in 2012. It doesn’t in 2022.

You can see the problem: The league doesn’t want news leaking of complicated sign-and-trades mere seconds into the alleged start of free agency, nor does it want breathless coverage of back-and-forth free agent negotiations on June 26. Well, good luck with that. Unless every social media outlet simultaneously fails while cutthroat reporters throttle back to Andrea Bargnani-esque tameness, it’s virtually impossible to keep the genie bottled.


The Elam ending factored prominently in the Showcase, even if the word Elam was never mentioned.

The G League has used it in overtime all year to generally positive reviews, requiring teams to score eight points rather than playing for a specified amount of time. That change got a thumbs-up from NBA personnel I spoke to, with the consensus being that NBA overtimes are too long right now and deflate drama from the end of the fourth quarter. The target score also eliminated the chance of multiple overtimes and the crazy player minute situations they can engender. The G League staffers all love it, too.

However, using it for the entire fourth quarter generated opposite reactions. Playing a fourth quarter with a “target” of 25 points more than the leading team’s score, rather than a set time, created a host of new issues. For starters, coaches were left guessing on substitutions without a clock to indicate how long players had played (or rested).

This was particularly true in lower-scoring games, a couple of which became interminable as teams struggled to hit the target score. And this was in today’s more open, offensive era! Imagine my Grizzlies playing, say, Utah in 2016, and try to figure out how long they’d need to play for one team to get to 25.

Secondarily, the target score produced some interesting strategy of its own. If your opponent is three points away from the target score, do you foul to eliminate losing on a 3-pointer? Concede a layup to do the same? (I saw a couple of teams in this situation hug all the shooters and leave gaping holes down Main Street). What about in a one-point game? Would any ref dare call defensive three seconds?

For those reasons, the Elam ending seems much more likely to gain eventual NBA-wide adoption in overtime than in regulation. Regardless, kudos to the league for continuing to use the G League as a lab to experiment with improvements to the game.

(Top photo: Lucas Peltier / USA Today)



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Jalen Brunson leads Knicks past Warriors for eighth straight win

Tom Thibodeau was close with Jalen Brunson the person, having known him since he was a young child. He had only watched him from a distance as a player, first in high school, then college and later the NBA.

But almost immediately after Brunson agreed to join the Knicks, his new coach had a good idea of why Brunson was going to be so valuable as his new point guard.

“I’ll be honest with you, when we first signed him he started coming in immediately in the summer and I knew right then, just by what he was doing,” Thibodeau said. “Not by what he was saying. Not by anything other than the way he came in and the way he worked each and every day. I knew that was exactly what we needed.”

Through the season’s first 31 games — in good times and bad, when he’s at less than 100 percent, when games are on the line — it has become clear what the addition of Brunson has meant to the Knicks. After Brunson inked that four-year, $104 million deal to leave the Mavericks, there was a narrative that he was overpaid. So far, it has been the opposite.

Jalen Brunson drives to the basket during the Knicks’ 132-94 blowout win over the Warriors.
Robert Sabo

His brilliant first season as a Knick continued Tuesday, in the form of a 22-point, five-assist, no-turnover masterpiece that led the Knicks to a 132-94 blowout of the defending champion Warriors and extended their NBA-leading win streak to eight. For the first time in nine meetings at the Garden, the Knicks beat the Warriors. This time, they had the star point guard on their side, as Golden State was without Stephen Curry due to a left shoulder injury, and they treated the Warriors like a sparring partner, instead of the other way around.

Brunson set the tone — with his scoring in the first half and passing after the break. He had plenty of help, four teammates in double figures. Immanuel Quickley snapped out of a shooting slump to hit five 3-pointers and score 22 points, Quentin Grimes had 19 points as he continued his impressive play and RJ Barrett contributed 18 points and five assists. Julius Randle was again a force inside, notching 15 points, 12 rebounds and five assists. Jordan Poole led the Warriors (15-17) with 26 points.

Immanuel Quickley, who scored 22 points, shoots a jumper during the Knicks’ blowout win.
Robert Sabo

After averaging over 27 points on the recent 3-0 road trip, Brunson picked up where he left off. He scored 16 points in the opening half on a variety of midrange jumpers, and went on a personal 9-0 run in the second quarter that gave the Knicks their largest lead of the first half at 57-43.

The ball moved well in the opening half, the Knicks racking up 15 assists on 24 made field goals and shooting a blistering 52.2 percent from the field. They hit 10 of their 19 3-point attempts, three apiece from Grimes and Quickley, and were dominant on the glass, owning a 22-14 edge. The lead was 13 at the break, and really could’ve been larger had the Warriors not shot so well from deep, making eight of 21 attempts.

Mitchell Robinson slams one home during the Knicks’ dominant victory.
Robert Sabo

There was a scare late in the first half that halted the positive vibes momentarily. Grimes landed on the foot of Warriors guard Ty Jerome, and appeared to turn his right ankle. Jerome was assessed a Flagrant 1. Grimes hit two free throws, came out of the game, but started the second half.

Brunson used the pass instead of the shot in the third quarter, stacking up four assists in the early portion of the period as the Knicks threatened to run the Warriors off the Garden floor. After hitting a jumper, Brunson set up a Grimes 3-pointer and Barrett layup on consecutive possessions, keying a 16-6 run that pushed the Knicks lead to a then game-high 21. It nearly doubled from there, ending in a 38-point win.

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After Steph Curry’s shoulder injury, what’s next for struggling Warriors?

INDIANAPOLIS — About 30 minutes after the Warriors dropped to 2-13 on the road, Steph Curry sat at his Indianapolis locker with his left arm dangling to his side in an immobile position. The training staff wrapped a huge ice pack around the top and back side of his injured shoulder. An already shaky state of affairs for the Warriors had hit an even bigger patch of turbulence.

Curry had 38 points on 19 shots late in the third quarter against the Pacers, expending so much energy that he delayed his return to the locker room at halftime to catch his breath. He had 27 points, but his team was down 20.

Curry was part of a rapid third-quarter comeback. The Warriors started Jonathan Kuminga in Kevon Looney’s place, shifting to a smaller, faster, more spread attack that cut the Pacers lead from 20 to five in under six minutes. Curry had 11 in the quarter and 38 for the game when he reached in on a Jalen Smith drive, grabbing all ball while inadvertently sending this Warriors season on another sketchy detour.

Curry felt immediate pain in his left shoulder. He grabbed at it, crumpled away from the play, stumbled to the scorer’s table and eventually the bench after the Warriors called timeout. After a brief conversation with Drew Yoder, the team’s director of medical services, confirmed the concerning discomfort, Curry walked to the locker room with Rick Celebrini, their lead medical decision-maker.

Here’s that moment.

In that clip, you can see Curry keeping his left arm stationary. It still hung like that after the game while Curry wandered around the locker room, before and after he iced it. He is scheduled for an MRI on Thursday and plans to travel with the team to Philadelphia. Testing will give them a firmer idea of a possible timeline, but the postgame sense from those around the team was that the injury would force some sort of a multi-game absence that would presumably extend through the rest of the road trip.

“Maybe it’s going to get a little tougher if Steph’s out for a while,” Steve Kerr said. “I mean, if he’s out, it will for sure get tougher. But we just have to persevere. You just keep playing and keep fighting.”

It wasn’t a despondent postgame locker room. Besides the added discomfort and treatment, Curry was in a normal mood. Assuming tests don’t reveal more substantial damage than initially expected, this could prove to be only a speed bump. But the 14-15 Warriors already faced a stiffening challenge before their best player went down. The near term just got a whole lot trickier.

So what’s next?

This will be an important stretch for Jordan Poole

When Curry went down in March with a foot sprain, Jordan Poole ascended to an entirely different level. He led the NBA in made 3s in March and April, averaging 24.7 points on 47.3 percent overall and 41.9 percent from deep.

They don’t necessarily need him to reach that zenith, but they’ll need Poole to be more efficient and protective with the ball than he’s been lately. Poole went 8-of-22 shooting and committed four turnovers against the Pacers. He went 6-of-17 with four turnovers to open the trip in Milwaukee. He’s made only five of his last 23 attempted 3s.

“The biggest thing with Jordan we’ve been trying to work on is to slow down,” Kerr said. “He just gets in a rush. He has so much ability. I think sometimes it’s the guys with the most ability when they’re young who make the most mistakes because they’re trying to learn what they can and can’t do. He’s so gifted, so fast, so shifty that he’s frequently getting himself in trouble.”

Do we see more of Moses Moody?

Despite the absence of Andrew Wiggins and Klay Thompson, the Warriors didn’t go to Moses Moody for the first 18 minutes against the Pacers. Kerr had two-way player Ty Jerome ahead of Moody in the initial rotation.

But the Warriors struggled with Jerome, Anthony Lamb and JaMychal Green on the court together. They were a minus-17 in Jerome’s first nine minutes. That pushed Kerr to throw Moody out there. He hit a corner 3 and snuck in a layup his first few minutes on the court. Down 20 at halftime, Kerr rearranged his third-quarter rotation and Moody was the first sub off the bench.

Moody finished with 13 points on 5-of-6 shooting, three assists and several other helpful plays within the margins. Both Moody and Kuminga, who started the second half, were key in maintaining the game’s competitiveness, nearly stealing away a late win. Green and Donte DiVincenzo also played big roles.

“I’m really pleased with his play,” Kerr said when asked if Moody had earned more run. “He’s got his opportunities and made the most of them. Every game is different. What’s made this year tricky is you’ve had different guys out, different combinations and a lot of new people. So we’re trying to find the right combinations. But Moses has done a great job and I imagine he’ll be out there next game.”

Thompson will be back Friday against the Sixers. Wiggins is getting a re-evaluation Thursday and his return is pending. So it may be difficult to find Moody a ton of minutes on the wing, but it’s hard to imagine he hasn’t earned a higher place in the pecking order than Jerome.

So what’s the non-Curry rotation?

If Wiggins can return soon, it’d be a Poole, Thompson, Wiggins, Draymond Green, Looney starting lineup. Kuminga continues to force his way into a bigger piece of the rotation pie, and Kerr showed Wednesday that Kuminga is an option for the starters if they decide a faster style and different look is needed.

After Kuminga, DiVincenzo is emerging as the most reliable option off the bench. He started in Thompson’s place Wednesday night and had 15 points and eight rebounds, making a pair of essential 3s to keep the Warriors close down the stretch. They were a plus-19 in DiVincenzo’s 38 minutes and a minus-24 in his 10 minutes on the bench.

“My focus isn’t on the offensive end,” he said. “It comes to me. But when I put pressure on the rim, good things happen. When I can get downhill, I can get other people shots, the defense is scrambling and the ball can find me again. When you’re playing basketball the right way — and that’s the right way, in my opinion, drive, kick and swing, all that movement — that’s when guys get good shots.”

He has also become one of the quiet leaders in the locker room.

“We needed more energy,” DiVincenzo said. “When things aren’t going our way, when calls aren’t going our way, there’s a standard playing for the Golden State Warriors. I think the biggest message is we have to play like freaking Warriors. That’s the biggest thing. We have to have that energy.”

How does the schedule look?

The Warriors, who are 2-13 on the road, finish this longest trip of the season with these four games: at Sixers, Raptors, Knicks, Nets. Those final two are on a back-to-back next week, Tuesday and Wednesday. They then have an extended break before beginning an eight-game homestand on Christmas against the Grizzlies.

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Thompson: Warriors’ two timelines are stumbling, and something has to give

SACRAMENTO — With 9:03 left, after a fast-break layup by De’Aaron Fox capped a 7-0 spurt in 55 seconds for the hosts, Warriors coach Steve Kerr called a timeout. He couldn’t wait any longer. Stephen Curry and Draymond Green had to come back in. This would, indeed, be another heavy-minute night, the third consecutive game urgency was their guide.

The Warriors need victories. Their chance for one Sunday night was slipping away. So it was winning time. That meant, again, it was time for the young studs to take a seat.

“We’re not a team right now where we can afford to let guys make mistakes,” Kerr said before the 122-115 loss to the Kings. “We’re not good enough to withstand a lot of mistakes.”

It’s hard not to miss the messaging. It’s subliminally loud. This was supposed to be the year the young guys on the roster took on larger roles, stepped forward in their destiny to one day be the stewards of this championship franchise. But when it’s time to win, they have to take a seat.

James Wiseman, the third-year center and former No. 2 pick was plucked from the rotation after their five-game skid sent the team into desperation mode. Forward Moses Moody, the second-year lottery pick, has joined Wiseman for the last two games Gorilla-Glued to the bench. Forward Jonathan Kuminga, the other second-year lottery pick, has managed a couple of stints in the early parts of games. But when it gets real, he’s right next to them.

Sunday, even Jordan Poole sat most of the fourth quarter, sacrificed in their push for a three-game winning streak.

The Warriors went with six players for most of that final nine minutes and change. Five of the six have championship rings — six of seven if you include Poole, who came in for the final 30.2 seconds when the Warriors needed 3s. The only player who didn’t have a reservoir of NBA experience but was worthy of playing in crunch time was Anthony Lamb, a 24-year-old wing who went undrafted in 2020 and snatched up a two-way spot late in Warriors training camp.

It still ended in defeat. It was their seventh consecutive road loss to start the season and a missed chance to inch closer to .500, where they can get back to the developing part of their plan.

As it stands, the Warriors have four first-round picks on the bench and none of them are sniffing the court once crunch time hits, if at all. This doesn’t look or feel sustainable. But the most troubling part is that when they lean on their veterans, they don’t have enough. They’re 0-7 on the road because those are the hardest games to win in the NBA, and Golden State is playing them largely shorthanded.

The season is 13 games old, too early to make grand proclamations. This will all be old news in March if they have figured things out as they head into the postseason.

But the direction the Warriors are heading is clear. The two-timeline plan is looking far more perpendicular than parallel. Colliding instead of complementing. They can’t seem to develop their young players and expect to win. And even when they just focus on winning, sans the development, their commitment to the youth has left them with too many holes.

Something is going to have to give. Either they will have to re-align this roster to give the veterans more immediate help. Or Kerr is going to have to swallow the mistakes and commit to playing one or two youngsters, win or lose. It’s the only way either of them can be ready when the Warriors will really need them later in the season.

No doubt, the ol’ heads on the roster could play even better. That would buy everyone more time.

The veterans had a chance to beat the Kings. Curry and Green came in, and the 9-point deficit morphed into a 111-109 lead following a Klay Thompson 3 at the 5:11 mark. In the past, this was all but a done deal. The Warriors’ wave would come and opponents would wilt. The champions flexed, and the pesky Kings were supposed to submit. But the opposite happened.

The Kings trapped Curry, who torched Sacramento for 47 points a week ago, and forced someone else to beat them. And the Warriors didn’t have anyone else who could. At least four of the Warriors’ losses have come with their stars getting outplayed down the stretch. But Curry said the critical part is how they get to those crunch-time moments.

Sunday was a common blueprint for this young season. The Warriors’ starters built a 15-point lead, 13 by the end of the first quarter, and handed it over to their second unit. When Curry, Green and Thompson checked back in at the 8:04 mark of the second quarter, the lead was down to 44-39. The Kings, who had been handled for 12 minutes, had found life.

Sacramento roared back and found its rhythm. The Kings outscored the Warriors 72-52 over the second and third quarters combined, then went on a 7-0 run early in the fourth. So now, as Curry pointed out, their opponent is on a roll, infused with the fresh lungs of momentum after feasting on the Warriors’ reserves. Those teams are tougher to vanquish. Even Detroit and Orlando, two of the worst teams in the East, looked formidable in those conditions. So did the Kings.

“I think about those windows in the game more than down the stretch, especially this early in the season,” Curry said, “because that’s where you really build confidence in what you’re doing when you can kind of capitalize off of those good runs throughout the meat of the game. … It might be a close game, but the confidence and the flow of the game is a lot different. We clawed our way back from 9 down and took a 2-point lead I think. It was a pretty electric fourth quarter that doesn’t go our way down the stretch. But my focus goes to those middle portions of the game that, you know, we make the game a lot harder than we need to.”

It is looking more and more like Green was right.

About 13 months ago, he made headlines when he said, historically, mixing experience with inexperience hadn’t worked before in the NBA. It would seem he was incorrect considering the Warriors went on to win the championship. But they won it all by sitting the young players. As the team advanced, the challenge got harder, and the inexperienced players played less. It was the veterans who delivered the title.

The Warriors have 16 players under contract, including the two-way players who split time with the Santa Cruz G-League team. Eight of the 16 are 26-and-up, and all of those but JaMychal Green have a championship ring. The other half is 25-and-under with three years of experience or fewer. The divide between them seems to be increasing instead of shrinking.

Put Poole on the experienced side, since he was vital during a championship run. That’s nine on the winning side of the timeline.

Some behind the scenes scoffed at Green’s take, pointing to great teams with young players who contributed. But Green’s point wasn’t really about individual young players. An inexperienced player can work when he is able to fold into the plan to win. Green was talking more about the impossibility of competing for a championship while simultaneously preparing for the future.

This season is looking like more proof already. When it’s time to win, as the stakes get higher and the adversity tougher, the youngsters get pushed out of the rotation. Because youth doesn’t win in the NBA. Not at the championship-contender level this franchise expects. The Warriors’ last five picks, while clearly talented, seem to have a hard time fitting into the Warriors’ preferred style.

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It’s been only 13 games, but the concerning part for the Warriors is they no longer seem to have enough on the winning side of the timeline to carry the load. One of those nine is 37-year-old Andre Iguodala, who is being preserved mostly for later in the season. So that’s eight. JaMychal Green, an eight-year veteran who has proven himself a valuable NBA role player, has already lost his spot in the rotation. So that’s seven players on the older half of the roster. Donte DiVincenzo has been solid and was slowed by injury, but he hasn’t been the difference-maker yet they banked on when they landed him in free agency. And Thompson, one of the pillar superstars, has sputtered out of the gates this season.

Again, it’s early, but JaMychal Green and DiVincenzo haven’t made up for losing Otto Porter Jr., Gary Payton II and Nemanja Bjelica, who with Iguodala helped the Warriors get off to an 18-2 start last season. The Warriors are even missing the presence of Damion Lee and Juan Toscano-Anderson, who would likely be playing right now but left for more minutes elsewhere as the Warriors went young.

It’s not having young players that’s hurting the Warriors. It’s having so many of them.

The proliferation of youth is evident in the limited energy on the bench. Formerly known for their hype and elaborate celebrations, the Warriors don’t have veterans over there who have experience at infusing energy into the team even while sitting. It’s not really their fault, but the Warriors’ youth often look more introverted and even somber than locked in every second. They are lottery picks waiting for their turn, not experienced reserves.

The proliferation of youth is evident in how the Warriors blow early leads. They don’t have the savvy veteran to slow everything down, to take the ball and the composure of the team into his hands. Poole is still learning how to lead the second unit.

“For the most part, coming off the bench, we’ve had kind of an elder statesman, if you will,” Draymond Green said. “It’s different now. And the reality is the first guy you come off the bench with is usually JP — and JP is a sixth starter. So that’s a different feel. … Whereas it used to be kind of a different offense, if you will, it’s more like the same. I think we have to figure that out in that second unit. What you’re accustomed to is Steph goes out the game and the whole offense changes, and it’s more sets. But with Jordan, it’s still going to be more of the same as you get with Steph.”

And playing with Curry is a brand of basketball all its own. And with Poole as the Curry of that unit, he’s got a few players around him not well versed in that style, which is full of reads and cuts, passes and movement, screens and flares. Remember a few years back when Shaun Livingston and Iguodala would lead the second unit, and they’d walk the ball up, running an elaborate set to get the ball to Livingston in the post or David West at the elbow? They ate clock and changed the flow of the game.

With Poole at the helm, the Warriors don’t run a ball-control offense that limits opportunities. They had visions of such a thing with Wiseman in the post and Kuminga and Moody giving them size and athleticism. But it’s just too much to ask to put them on the court together.

The plan for the Warriors is to get enough wins in the immediate future to take the danger out of their season. Then, they can go back to mixing in the young guys. To do that, they’re leaning heavily on their veterans.

It used to be that a big game from Curry was about as close to a guarantee as they could get for a win. Curry lighting it up and Draymond Green playing great on defense was all but a lock. Now both are happening, and it’s still not enough.

If Thompson gets hot and Poole finds a rhythm, that seems as if it would be enough. If JaMychal Green and DiVincenzo acclimate and become who their careers suggest, that could go a long way. If one or two of the young players find their way soon, that could do the trick. Or maybe it’s one of each.

Either way, something has to give. Because the Warriors can’t win playing the youngsters, and they aren’t winning enough without playing them. And nothing about that feels sustainable.


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NBA’s City Edition jerseys for 2022-23 are out. Here are some of their backstories

The NBA released its newest slate of City Edition jerseys, the ones teams will wear for the 2022-23 season. These uniforms, from jersey to shorts, usually carry some kind of thematic tie to the franchise’s home city.

The Athletic spoke to Jesse Alvarez, Nike’s product director of men’s basketball, to get a sense of how some of the most notable City Edition jerseys were designed and the details fans should look for when watching their teams play.


I want to start with the Spurs jersey. Can you walk me through the design and the inspiration for it?


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The Spurs, I think, as a lot of people remember, have one of the most iconic All Star Game uniforms that we’ve done, just in the world of jersey culture. So you can see some pretty clear nods to that in terms of just the color and the vibe. That was really the focus for that one, to be able to tie that in. You asked about some of the details: I think the belt buckle ‘SA’ and the Spur logos on the belt hook was just like a really nice way to round out and add a subtle detail to highlight the All Star uniform that they’ve been synonymous with.

So I recognize the coloring for that when I’m looking at those jerseys. The Pistons ones are green, a color I don’t associate usually with Pistons colors. What happened there?

Detroit has an amazing story. One of the things about that story is St. Cecilia. So St. Cecilia is really a place where players used to go run and play pickup basketball. And so that color, the green, is inspired by the actual St. Cecilia. That, coupled with the iconic details of the short patch, you’ll actually see like a stained glass or a grab that’s inspired by the stained glass that shows up at St. Cecilia, with a 313 logo at the center of it just as a way to weave those stories together. The mantra of St. Cecilia was ‘Where stars are made, not born.’ So it just really packages that story all together to bring that to life.

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Did you guys send people there to kind of look through the gym and just walk through it?

Yeah, so we actually partner with the team, and so the team was over there. They’re sending us pictures, you name it. Anything that we needed, we got to be able to really bring that to life. Like with any uniform, really, it starts with the team. They know their fan bases the best. And so that’s where all those points of inspiration are coming from.


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For you, do you have a favorite jersey?

You know, it’s funny, I was just telling someone it’s hard to have a favorite. Especially, they all feel like your kids. But I think, just right behind you, Chicago. I really like Chicago. I think how the municipal Y shows up in a number of different ways. And the symbology behind it, like uniting a city and how the Bulls at the center of the the Y on the side profile. I think this is a great representation of how a team is at the heart of a city. So Chicago is where I live.

I liked the color pattern on the Timberwolves one, but obviously it’s not something that’s associated with the Wolves. What is that about? What makes that unique?

One of the unique things about City Edition (jerseys) just in general, before I answer your question, is that with each story from an organization, they get to take it to wherever place they want to go. So Minnesota is known as being a creative hotspot for artists of all sorts. That (jersey) is a nod to some of the creative community. So one of the things that makes that uniform unique is that the pattern that you see in the uniform, it actually gets cut in a different way for every uniform. So every uniform is a unique one, just kind of as a way that each creative is unique in their own way. So that’s really how that story comes to life.

So you guys have like a big pattern of all these colors. Each swatch is different for each uniform?

Think about it more in in terms of when you think about how a uniform was made, each piece gets cut, so no two pieces are the same. So when they’re sewing those things together, every uniform is going to be slightly different, just like a fingerprint.


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I know sometimes you guys collaborate not only with teams but with like certain individuals on creating the jerseys. Is there anyone notable here that helps you with the creation, with the ideation of some jerseys?

Yeah, Detroit’s a great example. Big Sean is the creative director with the Pistons, so he’s somebody who helped bring that to life. Right behind you, you have KITH with the New York Knicks. Those are those are the two teams that are top of mind. Just kind of highlight some of the names that also work with organizations to bring their city edition uniforms to life.

I was looking at the Hornets’. That’s the angriest hornet I’ve ever seen in my life.

It’s an aggressive hornet. Really cool story, I think, centered around the Mint. So one of the cool things — I’m not sure if you were able to take a look at it — but the pinstripes are actually a nod to the Mint. The Mint is, you know, the source of inspiration for that uniform. The gold lettering with the mint trim, just harkens back to the financial inspiration with the Mint being in Charlotte.


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And the last one, I heard you talking about the Heat jersey. Can you kind of walk me through that one, especially the rope on the side. That seems to be a really cool detail.

So if you’ve ever turned on a game for the Heat, you’ll see that there’s actual yellow rope that surround the cord. They use the yellow piping to be able to be inspired by that yellow rope that you will see during the game. Their concept is kind of their chapter two of their mashup that they introduced last year.

This year, they flipped the color to white and then they took different components from previous iconic elements of their identity and mash those up together to be able to have this customized look. So you’ll see elements of their Floridians, their white hot, vice versa. All those different kinds of stamps in time that have made up the Heat organization, all mashed up into one uniform.

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