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Figma investors score historic coup with Adobe deal in down year

Adobe is paying 2021 prices. It’s 2022.

Wall Street hates it. Silicon Valley is thrilled.

In a year that’s featured exactly zero high-profile tech IPOs and far more headlines about mass layoffs than big funding rounds, Adobe’s $20 billion acquisition of Figma on Thursday is what some might call a narrative violation. There was no other bidder out there driving up the price, according to a person familiar with the matter who asked not to be named because the details are confidential.

Figma’s cloud-based designed software has been a growing headache for Adobe over the last few years. It’s cheaper (there’s even a free tier), easier to use, collaborative and modern, and has been spreading like wildfire among designers at companies big and small. Annualized recurring revenue is poised to more than double for a second straight year, surpassing $400 million in 2022.

“This was a significant threat to Adobe,” Lo Toney, founding managing partner of Plexo Capital, which invests in start-ups and venture funds, told CNBC’s “TechCheck” on Thursday. “This was very much both a defensive move but also an eye towards this trend where design rules and design matters.”

That’s why Adobe is paying roughly 50 times revenue following a stretch this year that saw investors dump stocks that were commanding sky-high multiples. For the top cloud companies in the BVP Nasdaq Emerging Cloud Index, forward multiples have fallen to just over 9 times revenue from about 25 in February 2021.

Snowflake, Atlassian and Cloudflare, the three cloud stocks with the highest revenue multiples, have plumetted 41%, 33% and 51% this year, respectively.

After the announcement on Thursday, Adobe shares sank more than 17% and headed for their worst day since 2010. The company said in a slide presentation that the deal isn’t expected to add to adjusted earnings until “the end of year three.”

Figma last raised private capital at a $10 billion valuation in June 2021, the peak of software mania. The company had benefitted from the work-from-home movement during the pandemic, as more designers needed tools that could help them collaborate while separated from their colleagues.

But now, even with more offices reopening, the hybrid trend has done nothing to take Figma off course, while other pandemic-friendly products like Zoom and DocuSign have slowed dramatically.

Given the plunge in cloud stocks, late-stage companies have steered cleared of the IPO market — and private financings in a lot of cases — to avoid taking a haircut on their lofty valuations. Tomasz Tunguz of Redpoint Ventures wrote in a blog post on Thursday that prior to this deal, “U.S. venture-backed software M&A was tracking to its worst year since 2017.”

In such an environment, Figma’s ability to exit at double its price from 15 months ago is a coup for early investors.

The three venture firms that led Figma’s earliest rounds — Index Ventures, Greylock Partners and Kleiner Perkins — all own percentage stakes in the double-digits, people familiar with the matter said. That means they’ll each return over $1 billion. Investors in the 2021 round doubled their money. They include Durable Capital Partners and Morgan Stanley’s Counterpoint.

While those sorts of numbers were routinely recorded during the record IPO years of 2020 and 2021, they’re foreign this year, as investors reckon with surging inflation, rising interest rates and geopolitical unrest.

Too young to drink

Danny Rimer, a partner at Index Ventures and Figma board member, said the company was in position to get ready for an IPO and was in no hurry to tap the capital markets, either private or public.

“We had raised a lot of money at very good valuations and didn’t need to raise any more money,” said Rimer, whose firm first invested in Figma in 2013. “The company was IPO-able. This really was more a question of what is the best way to achieve the goal of company, which is to democratize tools for design and creation across the globe.”

Dylan Field, co-founder and chief executive officer of Figma Inc., in San Francisco, California, U.S., on Thursday, June 24, 2021.

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Rimer said Figma has gone through quite a journey since he first met founder and CEO Dylan Field, who had dropped out of college to start the company as part of the Thiel Fellowship program, in which the tech billionaire Peter Thiel offered promising entrepreneurs $100,000 grants. When they met, Field was only 19.

“I took him to dinner and couldn’t buy him a drink,” Rimer said.

For Adobe, Figma marks the company’s biggest acquisition in its 40-year history by a wide margin. Its largest prior deal came in 2018, when Adobe acquired marketing software vendor Marketo for $4.75 billion. Before that, the biggest was Macromedia for $3.4 billion in 2005.

Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen explained his company’s rationale on CNBC, as his company’s stock ticker on the screen flashed bright red.

“Figma is actually one of these rare companies that has achieved incredible escape velocity,” said Narayen, Adobe’s CEO since 2007. “They have a fabulous product that appeals to millions of people, they have escape velocity as it relates to their financial performance and a profitable company, which is very rare, as you know, in software-as-a-service companies.”

Adobe needs the growth and new user base from Figma to maintain its dominant position in design. For investors, Narayen can only ask them to play the long game.

“It is going to be a great value for their shareholders,” Narayen said regarding Figma, “as well as Adobe’s shareholders.”

CNBC’s Jordan Novet contributed to this report

WATCH: CNBC’s interview with Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen

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Zillow, Expedia, Cloudflare and more

The Expedia homepage is displayed on laptop computers arranged for a photograph in Washington, D.C., U.S.

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Check out the companies making headlines after the bell

Expedia — Shares of the travel company jumped more than 5% in extended trading after a better-than-expected earnings report. Expedia posted adjusted earnings of $1.06 per share, higher than a Refinitiv estimate of 69 cents. The company said the impact from the pandemic was less severe and of shorter duration than previous waves.

Zillow Group — The real estate company saw its shares soaring 14% in after-hours trading after a revenue beat. Zillow reported revenue of $3.9 billion in the fourth quarter, topping Wall Street’s expectations, according to Refinitiv. “Zillow has a rock-solid financial foundation and a core IMT business in which we are reporting record profits today,” said Zillow co-founder and CEO Rich Barton.

Cloudflare — Shares of the web security company jumped about 5% in extended trading after its quarterly earnings and revenue came in stronger than expected. Cloudflare also announced that it acquired Vectrix to assist businesses in gaining control of their applications.

Upwork — The freelancer platform’s stock dropped 8% in after-hours trading even after its quarterly revenue beat expectations. Upwork reported sales of $137 million, higher than a Refinitiv estimate of $132 million. It reported a quarterly loss of 5 cents per share, matching analysts’ expectations.

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This is a treacherous market filled with extreme stock moves

CNBC’s Jim Cramer on Friday offered viewers his game plan for the next five trading days on Wall Street.

The “Mad Money” host’s lookahead came after the S&P 500 and Nasdaq Composite posted their best weeks so far in 2022, finishing 1.5% and 2.4% higher, respectively.

“This week we saw the true colors of what is a treacherous market,” the “Mad Money” host said. If investors love a stock, there’s “no level it won’t be taken up to,” he said. “But if it’s hated? There are no depths it won’t sink to. Either way … it’s likely to be an extreme.”

All revenue and earnings per share estimates are from FactSet.

Monday: Tyson Foods, Two-Take Interactive and Simon Property Group

Tyson Foods

  • Q1 earnings release before the bell; conference call at 9 a.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: $1.93
  • Projected revenue: $12.17 billion

Cramer said the company’s quarter should provide insights into the country’s meat supply chain, which has experienced a host of challenges during the Covid pandemic.

Take-Two Interactive

  • Q3 earnings release after the close; conference call at 4:30 p.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: $1.12
  • Projected sales: $868 million

Take-Two’s quarter will provide a glimpse into how much of the pandemic-related surge in gaming has stuck around, Cramer said. “[CEO] Strauss Zelnick is the straightest of straight shooters. If demand is waning, he’s just going to say it.”

Simon Property Group

  • Q4 earnings release after the bell; conference call at 5 p.m.
  • Projected EPS: $2.89
  • Projected revenue: $1.25 billion

Tuesday: Centene, Pfizer, Chipotle, DuPont and Peloton

Centene

  • Q4 earnings before the open; conference call at 8:30 a.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: 98 cents
  • Projected revenue: $32.5 billion

“I think it’s a takeover target and I bet we’ll get a very good quarter,” Cramer said of the health insurer.

Pfizer

  • Q4 earnings before the bell; conference call at 10 a.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: 87 cents
  • Projected sales: $24.16 billion

Cramer also said he expects very good numbers from Pfizer.

DuPont

  • Q4 earnings before the open; conference call at 8 a.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: 99 cents
  • Projected revenue: $4.02 billion

“The great industrials have had a real up and down time in this market and I fear this could be DuPont’s down time, which is why we finally decided to ring the register for a terrific profit for the charitable trust,” Cramer said.

Chipotle

  • Q4 earnings after the close; conference call at 4:30 p.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: $5.25
  • Projected sales: $1.96 billion

Cramer said Chipotle’s quarter is the one he’s most interested in Tuesday. “I think it could do low double-digit same-store sales versus last year’s already excellent numbers and that should cause the stock to ignite,” he said. “Raw costs are always a problem in the business, though.”

Peloton

  • Q2 earnings after the close; conference call at 5 p.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: Loss of $1.22
  • Projected revenue: $1.14 billion

Cramer said he’s looking for a host of updates from Peloton’s management after the exercise equipment maker’s stock has been pummeled in recent months. One topic that is likely to come up is The Wall Street Journal’s report Friday that Amazon has approached Peloton about a potential deal, Cramer said.

Wednesday: CVS Health, PepsiCo, Disney and Mattel

CVS Health

  • Q4 earnings release before the bell; conference call at 8 a.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: $1.83
  • Projected sales: $75.66 billion

“I expect a very good quarter from CVS [because of] Covid testing, but what happens next?” Cramer said. “Have they monetized the vaccination seekers? That would take it to the next level.”

PepsiCo

  • Q4 earnings release before the open; conference call at 8:15 a.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: $1.52
  • Projected revenue: $24.24 billion

Cramer said he was surprised the beverage giant’s stock fell 1.6% Friday, suggesting he’d pick up some shares ahead of the quarterly print.

Disney

  • Q1 earnings release after the close; conference call at 4:30 p.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: 73 cents
  • Projected revenue: $20.27 billion

Cramer said he thinks the media and entertainment giant does not get enough credit for the value of its intellectual property. “This isn’t Netflix. It isn’t Facebook. It’s a one-of-a-kind growth vehicle. It is not stagnant. It is not dead, and that’s why I’d like to build a bigger position ahead of the quarter for my trust,” he said.

Mattel

  • Q4 earnings release after the close; conference call at 5 p.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: 33 cents
  • Projected revenue: $1.66 billion

“I think there could be a whole new slate of toys and entertainment from CEO Ynon Kreiz, who’s been a turnaround whizz,” Cramer said.

Thursday: Coca-Cola, Twitter, Cloudflare and Zendesk

Coca-Cola

  • Q4 earnings release before the bell; conference call at 8:30 a.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: 41 cents
  • Projected revenue: $8.98 billion

While Cramer said he expects a good quarter from Coca-Cola, he specifically mentioned looking for updates on the beverage maker’s partnership with Molson Coors on a Topo Chico hard seltzer. “I think this is the next big spiked [beverage],” Cramer said.

Twitter

  • Q4 earnings release before the bell; conference call at 8 a.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: 33 cents
  • Projected revenue: $1.58 billion

It’s unclear whether Twitter’s digital ad business faces challenges like Facebook parent Meta or is growing just fine like Amazon or Alphabet, Cramer said. “I think we’ll find out that it remains the same old plodding Twitter when it reports—a company that has nothing we truly want to pay up for,” Cramer said.

Cloudflare

  • Q4 earnings after the close; conference call at 5 p.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: 0 cents
  • Projected revenue: $185 million

Cramer said he’s anticipating “great numbers” from the cybersecurity firm, but “I don’t expect anyone to care” because the stock is out of favor on Wall Street.

Zendesk

  • Q4 earnings after the bell; conference call at 5 p.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: 18 cents
  • Projected sales: $371 million

Cramer said he’s keeping an eye out for an update on Zendesk’s pursuit of Momentive Global, a deal which activist investor Jana Partners has urged Zendesk to drop.

Friday: Under Armour, Cleveland-Cliffs and Goodyear Tire & Rubber

Under Armour

  • Q4 earnings release before the open; conference call at 8:30 a.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: 6 cents
  • Projected sales: $1.47 billion

“There’s lots of good buzz about this one, so much that I think it’s actually a terrific speculation going into the quarter. We keep hearing about a potential turnaround, maybe this time it’s going to happen,” Cramer said.

Cleveland-Cliffs

  • Q4 earnings before the bell; conference call at 10 a.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: $2.15
  • Projected revenue: $5.73 billion

“I’m betting actually that Cleveland-Cliffs will do a decent number,” Cramer said, complimenting the company’s management and improved balance sheet.

Goodyear Tire & Rubber

  • Q4 earnings before the open; conference call at 9 a.m. ET
  • Projected EPS: 32 cents
  • Projected sales: $5.01 billion

“I think that Goodyear will positively dazzle,” Cramer said.

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